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    They are all slaves to the terror state:

    Our Epstein friend:

    the genocide collaborator and the drone king:

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    God. I know it’s the pettiest and least on-topic thing about these photos but… That god-damn weird-ass Trump centaur stance… At all times. Always. Centaur stance. I hope it’s physically painful for him to stand like that. I hope it hurts every day that he has to get up and walk.

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        Look at any photograph of him. He does this weird leaning forward thing (which some people take to be indicative of a certain type of disorder) that happens to make him look like a centaur would if you cut off the front legs and human torso into a human shape. See here

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    The only actually funny thing i have ever seen Johnny Somali do is put pics of Jeff Epstein and Harvey Weinstein in the wailing wall

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    All three look like the thought bubble is “have I been standing here long enough? better stick around for a few more minutes to be sure”

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    The oddest part to me is knowing it was just a photo op, and they were like “get a picture of this real quick, it’ll really fool 'em!”

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    This image speaks volumes. “We will continue the genocide in Gaza at all costs,” for example.

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      I’m starting to think this is just a giant money laundering scheme.

      Give Federal money and resources
      Receive large campaign contributions and Super PAC donations

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    Honest question, but isn’t that kinda disrespectful tp Judaism? They are now Jewish, they don’t believe on the Jewish beliefs, are not the hat religious?

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      Can we PLEASE PLEASE stop treating judaism like it’s a special religion? I can mock christians all day, every day, why the different treatment for jews?

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        rule of thumb. it’s ok to punch upwards and laterally in comedy,

        given that Christianity is basically the default state religion in most developed countries, making fun of it is sort of punching upwards.

        but unless you’re part of the minority, it’s likely you’ll say some really stupid stuff if you make fun of said minority and it’ll likely sound hateful and ignorant.

        and to make it clear. those politicians are zionists, they are doing it to appease their AIPAC donor. they are not Jewish and do not support jews or their communities. look how the only loud antizionist politician in the US has the support of his Jewish constituents.

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          yes, the reason to be sensitive about Judaism is the robust history and present of oppression Jews have experienced. It’s unfortunate that Israel uses this as a basis of dismissing legitimate criticism of their crimes as anti-Semitism.

          For comparison, imagine a Black ethno-state committing genocide (e.g. like in Ethiopia) and then dismissing critics as merely racists.

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            No sorry, being black and being jewish is not the same. You can stop being jewish if you want, you can’t stop being black lol

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              Man, you should be embarrassed. How can someone be so assertive and yet so ignorant? At least tell me you’re 12?

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              Judaism is a religion, but also an ethnicity - some people are born ethnic Jews and are not able to “stop being Jewish”. Some people convert to Judaism and are not ethnic Jews. You seem confused by this, maybe?

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                If it is really an ethnicity, what does a jew from israel, usa and poland have in common? Language, tradition, society and history are all different. Things in common? Jewish religion.

                Ethnicity is also closely tied to nationalism, to a common land that shapes the shared experience of it. And if you say israel, we can close the conversation here.

                Can you give me an example of ethnic jew that doesn’t follow the religion? What does it mean to be born ethnically jew?

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                  Albert Einstein, Woody Allen, and Sigmund Freud were all ethnic Jews who were not followers of Judaism.

                  Are you young? I know many people IRL who are of Jewish ethnicity but are not religious, but I remember when I was younger I did not have as much awareness.

                  In lieu of life experience, perhaps it would be helpful to read more about Jewish identity and learn that way:

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews

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              You can stop being jewish if you want

              According to all the worst people (Israeli Nationalist and Nazis) you can’t.

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        I don’t mean it as it because Judaism is an special religion. If someone that is not catholic or Muslim goes in a performative confession or migration to the Mecca I would think is disrespectful too.

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        I would say judaism should be seen as at least as special islam and christianity since it’s an abrahamic religion and rarer than both. So if you’re okay to say that neither of those are special, only then is it consistent to say that judaism is not special.

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          Of course, no religion is special. You can believe in any fairytale book inside your house and the place of prayer. However this is always within the legal framework of the law.

          Your special book says you should steal from “non-religion-affiliated-people” because god said you are his bbf? 30 years in jail.

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              (͡•_ ͡• ) uh?

              Yes, judaism is treated like a special taboo religion that can’t be criticised. It’s not special and it should be criticised heavily.

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                I imagine that such people also include almost any-non-Christian religion among those that mustn’t be criticized (e.g. Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc.), so I wouldn’t really say Judaism is specifically being treated like a special taboo religion.

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                  Bro stop it with the whataboutism.

                  We are talking about judaism here. These religious people are shielded and protected by media and politicians, it is taboo to criticise the jews in the west. This is wrong.

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        Probably something about millions of them being tortured and killed in concentration camps that makes mocking the Jewish people kinda taboo.

        For the most part, they’ve been pretty chill about the whole thing, frankly… But those cuts run deeeep. I’m not Jewish, and even I’m disgusted by how they were rounded up and slaughtered like cattle for no reason other than being who they are.

        The biggest issue that I think you’re going to face is that most people can’t differentiate between the Jewish faith and the Jewish people (who may or may not believe in the Jewish faith).

        Generally, I don’t think that making fun of the faith is any more or less taboo than poking fun at Christians or Catholics or whatever… But making fun of the Jewish people, is generally a no fly zone.

        Since people lack the intelligence, awareness, and shits to give, in order to see that being Jewish and believing in the Jewish faith are separate. So if you make fun of one, you’re making fun of both.

        Edit: let me back up for a second to say: I’m just trying to explain the behaviour. I am neither Jewish, nor a fan of the Jewish people, nor do I have any strong feelings against them per-se. This message is only discussing how others tend to see the Jewish people/faith/whatever. It does not, in whole or in part, express how I feel about anything at all, ever, for any reason.

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          Probably something about millions of them being tortured and killed in concentration camps that makes mocking the Jewish people kinda taboo.

          Holocaust survivors are few and far between but the zionists keep milking that cow (neglecting the fact the nazis didn’t target only jews).

          Palestine has been suffering their own continued holocaust for over 70 years, perpetrated by the zionists.
          Yeah people conflate race, culture, ethnicity, religion and what not into “being jew” because they themselves do that, so that they can claim any criticism is antisemitism.

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          Probably something about millions of them being tortured and killed in concentration camps that makes mocking the Jewish people kinda taboo.

          Fuck the taboo, let me say it more clearly ISRAEL IS A SUPREMACIST JEWISH STATE. I didn’t conflate judaism and zionism, I didn’t say I’m a “choosen person” by god, I don’t spit on other religions, I don’t promote stealing from non-jews, I don’t condone nor justify pedophilia or hide pedophiles, I don’t bribe and blackmail people, I didn’t help carrying out other genocides and lie about it.

          And when i find people who do this and call them out, I need to remember concentration camps? Fuck you, Fuck israel, Fuck zionism and Fuck the jews. (Sue me)

          I don’t believe a single fucking word these disgusting liars and professional gaslighter say. Judging by how they treat Palestinians and they lie about it, from now on, I will assume EVERYTHING they say is a lie. So before we go back to WWII let’s check the crimes these scums did first.

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            Oh, I don’t think that’s taboo at all. That’s basically the common fare.

            My entire point is that people will conflate mocking the Jewish religion, for mocking the Jewish people; which will get them up on a high horse and unhappy and/or angry with you for being antisemitic.

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            Comedy is different than genuine criticism. The first is allowed, the second not. You are free to do as they tell you.

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            Probably. I’m not going to argue about what’s happening over there.

            People seem to have a lot of opinions on it and the only strong feelings I have about it are that people should stop killing eachother because grown men who are supposed to be leaders of their respective nations, cannot make peace because they’re too childish to have sympathy, empathy, and any shreds of humanity to not starve, bomb, kill, maim, or otherwise destroy eachother.

            The reasons why they’re doing what they’re doing, IMO, are not as important as the lives they’re ending in the process.

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            Stop conflating Israel’s atrocities and zionism in general with Judaism and Jewish people. It 1) plays right into Israel’s strategy and 2) is, or at the very least begets, antisemitism.

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              Judaism is a religion and not an ethnicity. A white person from NEW JERSEY putting a tiny hat doesn’t change his ethnicity.

              A jew in New Jersey is an american (location) following judaism (religion).

              A jew in Palestine is a semite/arab (location) following judaism (religion).

              Again, I didn’t conflate them, israel is a self proclaimed jewish supremacists state.

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                How is saying ‘the genocide they’re committing’ when talking about Judaism not conflating Jews with Israel?

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                  You are not reading eh? IT IS conflating the two, you are just mad at the wrong people.

                  Zionist deeply conflated their supremacist ideology with judaism 100 or so years ago. This way, if someone criticises you, you can call him antisemantic and go on with your ethnic cleansing.

                  But it’s more than conflating, it’s hijacking it, because often many zionists in power positions don’t call themselves zionists but jews. Again this is a shield.

                  Do you want to be a practicing jew without all the lying, stealing, pedophilia, blackmailing and genocide? Be my guest.

                  Aren’t you tired to be lied to your face every day on every fucking platform? Do you think is okay to lie so you can massacre kids?

                  Instead of your pointless rhetorical questions, answer mine please.

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              82% of the Jewish population supports what the Zionists are doing in Gaza. Fuck Israel and fuck any feelings they have about being mocked. They don’t deserve to be protected by the world.

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                  Trump’s approval rating is listed at 35%. Was I, an American, ever polled on this? No. Am I rejecting it outright because clearly based on my own experience the sample size was not 100%? Nope.

                  If the Jewish population, especially those living in Israel, don’t want to be lumped in with genocide, they can do something about it. Same as Americans who don’t want to be lumped in with those committing the destruction of the American country. I’m lumped in until I do something about it, and that’s fair. Want a good name? Make it.

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      I’m Jewish, and I think it is.

      not because they aren’t Jewish, I welcome everyone to visit that place (just wait for apartheid to end before you go there), but because they are using the most religious place as a photo-op to appease genocidal lobbyists.

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    Pretty sure there’s a picture of Obama doing this too. It’s just being respectful while performing diplomacy. Sure, you can argue that this shouldn’t happen with Israel, but cherry picking R’s doing this and ignoring ALL OF THE D’s that did it too is just dishonest. This is misinformation.

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      yeah and Obama was also a cuck for Israel for doing it. I agree we should show ALL of our leaders at the cucking-wall.

      All our leadership are cucks for Israel and it is in fact, very weird.

      Yes, we need bases and support in the middle-east, sure, makes sense. But it’s ridiculous to think there’s been no other way to exert political will in the region. Let’s just admit that our country is a corporation and it’s very profitable to have a reliable weapon-buyer and test-bed for all our new gadgets and killing tools.

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            Yeah but Geneva you’re missing the point! They pointed out that the other sports team side does it too therefore you lost. Checkmate.

            If you’re not red, you’re blue. No nuance is available, no ability to be neither red or blue. You must pick a team, because… well because they said so! Duh!

            Tap for spoiler

            /s in case it wasn’t obvious enough

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              Nope, not playing whataboutism. I’m simply asking that we don’t LIE to make a point. This post is dishonest.

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                Where is the lie? Does anything in the post suggest that only Republicans do this or is it saying the current administration is?

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            THEN POINT IT OUT. DONT POST BULLSHIT CLAIMING ITS A ONE SIDED ISSUE.

            You’re not helping anything by spreading misinformation just because you like it.

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              I have had Dems complaint about “one sided criticism” when Biden was in power but this is the first time it has happened for Trump.

              It’s getting highlighted online because Mike Johnson is on a fealty swearing trip in Israel right now.

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                Oh shut the fuck up already. I’m not “Dems”. I’m me. And I’m criticizing YOU for being dishonest and spreading your own propaganda that is easily proven false. It’s “getting highlighted” because you posted a bullshit post. It wouldn’t be highlighted if you didnt post this crap. Have some goddamn integrity and stop throwing your hands up on the air when criticized. Stop spreading falsehoods and when called out on it, own up to it. You’re behaviour is exactly the same as a MAGA trying to pretend to be naive.

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          I think OP forgot that Kamala also supported Israel and would have taken THE EXACT SAME PICTURE.

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            Damn, so troll Dem complain that people who said Genocide Joe sold the election to Trump, while Maga troll complain that people who saying “Us government loyalty is to Israel” are ignoring what Dem do.

            Get over it, your entire government and all representative are participating in war crimes and genocide.

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      How many other government’s representatives have done this? I’ve never heard of any. (Maybe I’ve missed them, it’s possible)

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        https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=US+representative+at+Israel+prayer+wall

        And Holy Shit, look at the top results… Is that Obama I see? Oh wow… And a bunch of other people too? Shiiiiiit. It’s almost like there’s more nuance to the issue than some hastily thrown together tweet taking shit out of context.

        This would be hilarious if I didn’t think you were a registered voter who thinks they are “informed” when they can’t even do a basic search. Ffs, I don’t even know the name of the damn wall, I just guessed. Now I know it’s the Western Wall, and can even learn more about it, because I did 5 seconds of research.

        Media literacy in this country is dead.

        Edit: alright, fuck it, in my haste I didn’t see you said other countries. My bad there. But I’m leaving all of this, because…

        https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=foreign+diplomats+visiting+Western+Wall+in+Israel+

        …STILL APPLIES. It’s not that hard. Seriously.

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              Yes?

              Well apparently there aren’t really any significant numbers that are pretending to be jewish for some reason. I suppose that when you’re not a US politician, people at home would just think you’re a weirdo.

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                squints can you move those goal posts a little closer? They’re almost out of the park how far you moved them to not have to admit that you just didn’t know that other countries do the same thing with the western wall.

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                  I dunno, I can still see the goalposts. I think he needs to move them again…

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                “pretending to be Jewish”… Ummm they’re not doing that so another lie spread I guess.

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      There is exactly zero nuance in this comment. Obama hadn’t been throwing around near the rhetoric that Trump and his cronies have.

      Israel has always (afaik) been an ally. The difference is the fanaticism and devotion our leaders demand we give to another country.

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    Caitin is an Assad supporting Putin apologist and has no place in progressive politics.

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        Assad killed 201,290 citizens. Not supporting that has nothing to do with anything else.

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          Assad was definitely not a great guy but most of the suffering was caused by America and Israel arming, training and funding terrorist groups to attack Syria and sanctioning Syria.

          Now there’s IS giving away Syria to Israel for free though. What a massive win!

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            No the regime killed far, far more:

            Just stop it man… Touch grass and talk to Syrians instead of using their plight as pawns in your imaginary game of geopolitics

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              NATOpedia strikes again.

              At least we have ISIS arresting Palestinian resistance factions now and handing territory over to Israel. And you yelling at anyone who maybe thinks that is not a great idea for the future of Syria.

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    There are plenty of things politicians do to be diplomatic, this is just one of them.