There isn’t even an actual gun range; just an empty field people are known shoot guns at. And the outrage seems misplaced that the baseball diamond should be shutdown instead of shutting down dipshits firing guns in the field next to it.
OH Texas. That explains it.
Coming at you every mother fucking DAYAYAA!!!
Offer solutions please, not more criticism. Your divisive, reductive meme highlights the problem described in OP’s article but does nothing else. Please be better.
People in a field shoot without reguard to what’s in the direction of the bullets they are firing. Kids flee, a coach is shot and someone thought they should blame the baseball field builders lol. Mate if you fire a gun and there is any reasonable belief that bullet can strike something other than your target, you should be charged with shooting at that object.
To me that means attempting to kill that coach/kids.
If you fire a gun, you are 100% responsible for the bullet, full stop.
What if you’re at a paid indoor range and your bullet goes through the back stop wall because the range cheaped out?
I said 100% and I meant 100%.
It’s literally the (tort) law. I don’t think the armchair lawyers here understand anything
If you’re defending\agreeing with Triumph, I don’t think you understand tort law.
Literally just had a case in my Tort Law class about this very thing. I think you don’t know anything at all.
I know in my scenario under tort, the gun range or someone further down in the construction of the range would be found liable, and not the shooter.
Your unwillingness to reason has made you out to be seen as stupid.
A question was asked. I answered it. Please indicate where I was “unwilling[] to reason”.
… The part where a shooter is always 100% responsible for the bullet.
That’s because that’s true.
Especially if the bullet doesn’t full stop into the target or a barrier behind it.
@LyD@lemmy.ca points out that the barrier had nothing to do with it.
1oo% true. and yet… who would build a a base ball park right next to a gun range?! not saying they are at fault, but like …really? there must be something i don’t know, like was it an indoor range?
Which one was built first?
@LyD@lemmy.ca points out that the barrier had nothing to do with it.
The outdoor range points away from the baseball field.
i mean ok, i get it. but OOF. i see also that the shooting wasn’t even at the gun range. still seems like a weird place to constantly hear gun fire during your kids little league game
Far west of Houston? All those kids are used to guns already.
Sounds like they are getting charged
The Waller County Sheriff’s Office said it was now pursuing dangerous conduct charges against three people suspected of firing off guns nearby.
Before opening this article… Let me guess? Texas
Update: Yep Texas
But a Sheriff’s Office spokesperson told Houston Public Media that the suspected shooters were actually not on that property during the incident.
The gunshots didn’t come from the gun range at all.
Who builds a gun range in a way that bullets can escape if shot from appropriate positions?
They didn’t, the headline is shit and they shouldn’t have included that quote, because the gunfire came from a property that wasn’t the gun range.
I am pretty sure this is the gun range and you’re supposed to shoot in the direction of the blue arrow. That big mound of earth is where the targets would be and is supposed to catch stray bullets. Something tells me that redneck fuckery was involved.
Found it on Google maps, I think I was right.
JFC they were shooting uprange to make this happen
Supposedly the shooters weren’t on that property at all.
It’s frankly amazing that this very pertinent information you revealed after the briefest of Google searches isn’t included in the “official” reporting.
Hey!
HEY!
Journalism is hard, ok?
jfc what a joke
Either fuckery, or a ricochet. My first time shooting tracers was eye-opening to how much bullets bounce around. This guy shooting a 50-cal is hit in his earmuffs after the berm launches the round back at him.
Don’t bother to comment out speculation if you haven’t even bothered to read the article and watch the video. Like 30 bullets didn’t ricochet 500+ yards away into a baseball field.
To keep enough velocity and stay at a consistent height and ricochet in that direction seems much less likely than they were just shooting in the wrong direction.
I agree that fuckery is the most likely explanation in this case. However, ricochets do not need to remain at a constant height or velocity to hurt someone. A round bounced backward and arched just enough to clear the treeline would be enough. I’m kinda shocked an outdoor range would be allowed this close to those fields. Regardless of physical danger, imagine concentrating on playing ball while gunshots ring out in an adjacent lot!
There is no amount of Ricochet on this Earth that would result in this.
If you’ve seen tracer fire in real life, I doubt you would keep that position. The fact that a falling bullet traveling at terminal velocity is enough to kill or injure someone, combined with the fact that bullets travel for miles would instantly tell you otherwise. Watch tracers fired at night and you can see how frequent ricochets are when hitting a mix of rocks in dirt. The last video I shared already demonstrated that complete trajectory reversals are even possible, not that this is even required in this circumstance.
The baseball field is only about 1/2 mile from the range backstop (about 22% of a 5.56 bullet’s maximum range). All it would take is a rock plowed up into an inopportune position on the berm to set off a freak accident. Now, as I’ve said in another comment, I absolutely don’t believe this is the most likely explanation; however, to discount it as an impossibility is ignorant.
The range of a round when fired and the range of a round after it hits a rock and bounces are two incredibly vastly different things. Also nobody’s talking about a bullet falling from the sky. Look at where that range is look at the angle from which they’re firing and look at where the baseball field is. There is no possibility a Ricochet fired at that range could bounce back into that baseball field like they claim. It’s not possible.
The article says that the people who were shooting weren’t on the shooting range property, so it was probably just some morons shooting guns in an unsafe location who and direction who can’t be bothered to use the shooting range. Hopefully the range, were they to actually use it as intended, has proper berms and backstops to keep any rounds from going an unsafe direction.
Who builds a range, especially in Texas, without knowing that 99.999% of the people using it are going to be stupid and reckless because they think their firearms compensate for all their many inadequacies?
Never been to a range where the Range Safety Officer (RSO) wouldn’t rip your fucking head off for the slightest fuckery, kick you out, ban you for life, fist offense.
And fuck you very much BTW. I enjoy learning ballistics first hand, the mechanics are at the edge of what my brain can handle, refurbishing crap guns pushes my restoration limits and knowledge, and it’s just plain fun.
Also, my dick is 7.5". Nothing to write home about, but I haven’t felt inadequate about that in life.
In Texas. Of course.
They should just supply every Texan with bulletproof armour and helmets and make it mandatory that they should wear them at all times … because there is a high likelihood that they might get shot either intentionally or accidentally.
As a non-American, it sounds like this should be the uniform issued at birth or at least when (if?) kids reach school age. I say “if” because vaccines are being outlawed. Technically body armour is just another kind of vaccine though, no?
My area has a playground built to accommodate disabled children and the adjacent property is a gun range. There are also soccer fields. Imagine children going down the slide and swinging and kicking the ball around all to the sound of not-so-distant gunfire. The 200 meter range even shoots towards the soccer fields.
This is the most 'merican thing I’ve read all day
Americans?
