Get used to disappointment.
The only thing that is unacceptable, and remains so daily, is that tRump hasn’t died from eating all those Big Macs
You know that guy that died from eating all of the big Macs. There is no justice in the world there really isn’t.
Anything less than having trump in jail for the rest of his putrid life is unacceptible
There is no God if Trump doesn’t have a debilitatibg stroke. I want him alive, drooling, feeble but just mentality aware that death would be a kinder punishment.
We’ve come here because we punished people like him only with jail.
Well, not EVEN with jail.
more like “anything less than a distraction from epstein files showing more and my friends of pedophelia and sexual assault is unacceptable”- TRUMP.
At this point, the Epstein files are the distraction. Trump is going full Fascist both at home and abroad.
“Thank you for your attention to this matter and not the other matter.”
I don’t understand why the danish officials they even wasted their time to go to Washington to “talk” about this. There’s nothing to talk about this.
Have they ever tried to reason with a toddler that’s having a tantrum “I want that toy now”? Waste of time.
They have nothing to lose in doing so.
At worst “conversations” delay an American invasion giving more time for Denmark to prepare.
Any half-competent diplomat will ignore “pride” as a consideration for a chance and stopping a war or giving their own side’s military more time to prepare, with no actual downside (i.e. the exact same outcome as if they didn’t engage in “conversations” if that fails).
Also no doubt a lot of “out of the spotlight” work is going into convicing the members of that Administration who are actually intelligent types putting on a show for Trump and the public that such a move will indirectly be bad for them personally because of the downsides for the people who own them - big American businesses - of turning Europe into an Enemy rather than merely a trade competitor.
Simple: if the toddler has found daddy’s gun because the safe was left open… you better try talking before you scare it.
This is not a toddler, this is a guy bigger than you and with lots of guns and friends. Talking is our only option, especially because it means we can also go against the narrative that Denmark cannot defend Greenland.
Which is true in isolation, but that’s why we’re in NATO and the joint arctic command and have the 1951 deal with the US that you guys can scale up military presence in Greenland at will. Yet it hadn’t happened in 20 years, only reductions.
Personally I think we should have gone more into how Biden refused to increase the defense of the arctic region within the agreement, give the trumpists a way to call him names and solve the issue within the agreements we have.
Still, Lars Løkke has been doing the rounds on Fox News and elsewhere to give our perspective, which could influence public opinion and help change the false narratives being spread in the US. From our perspective we had everything to gain from a meeting and very little to lose.
Even if biden had done all that, musk would have undone it for his orange god
That’s not the point, though. The point is to try and change the narrative to be more, shall we say, fact-based. And maybe talk to someone less mental than Trump.
Good luck finding anyone like that with enough pull to matter
Well, that’s what our people did yesterday. Even if Vance is a piece of shit he’s not deranged like Trump, and Rubio is also someone you can have a productive discussion with as a foreign nation provided, of course, that the racist grandpa in charge of your nation calms down for a second and stops posting lies about Greenland every 30 minutes.
Anybody know anybody with the NSF? The highest, most centered point in Greenland hosts Summit Station which conveniently is (was) an outpost for NSF polar research and such. Got a pretty big (snow-packed) airstrip, too. And a pretty established set of facilities, despite the harshness of the locale.
Yeah, I would not be shocked if a cult-ratified set of NSF “researchers” just lets the militardy saunter on in and stake claim for twump.
That’d be a lot less obvious than storming via any of the actual military outposts, amirite? No doubt it’s been under the ol’ Fiveside’s consideration at some point…
Anything less than trump, his entire administration, every pedofile on that list, every ice agent, the entire heritage foundation, every dirty oligarch, every politician who takes money from Israel, trumps criminal children and the corrupt Supreme Court being tried for violations against the constitution and international law is unacceptable
Must admit I’m sitting here in Australia, thinking about our uranium reserves, and thinking “uh oh”.
…says the unacceptable one…
I really want to stress how deeply unpopular this is in the U.S. The MAGA movement is about 30% of the electorate, so you can generally expect that even the dumbest, most insane Trump decisions have a floor of 30% approval. 9% of Americans support this, 86% oppose it. At minimum, two-thirds of Trump’s most rabid, loyal followers are against this.
Something I’ve learned in the last decade, no matter how unpopular a position, MAGA supporters will fall in line with the party rather than risk threatening the parties authority.
Maybe. MAGA is fracturing right now. Withholding the Epstien files really was too much for some of them, and Marjorie Taylor Greene’s defection gave a lot of them permission to question and criticize him. Invading an ally for no reason might actually break through to good chunk of the average red hats.
Can I interest you in an academic novel that comprehensively confirms your opinion? theauthoritarians.org
I hope those numbers can be turned into actions to stop Trump.
The elected officials need to be reminded what the vast majority of their voters want them to do.
As long as that idiot is in power those numbers mean nothing. Impeach him, vote in a new guy and then we’ll talk.
Thanks. They’re comforting numbers.
Well, I hate to throw cold water on that comfort, but I’m not sure the numbers matter. Trump is increasingly unresponsive to polling, even within his base, and it seems like the Pentagon really is planning an invasion. It would fracture his own MAGA movement, completely destroy NATO, make America a global pariah, and potentially start WWIII, but it seems he is seriously considering it.
I have nothing to base this on but some guy on the internet said that he is demanding invasion & the top brass keeps trying to talk him out of it.
I read an article that claimed some top Generals are trying to distract him with an invasion of Iran (which is also really, really bad). Traditional neocons certainly don’t want this, though; they don’t want to throw away 80 years of military alliances. Still, if the president tells the Pentagon, “make me a Greenland invasion plan,” they’re gonna do it.
Ah I’m sure he’s considering it and the planning is a given. I’m glad the bulk of Americans have some sense in this matter at least.
Probably as retribution to the American people for not voting for him in 2021. Such a lust for revenge
STOP BEING DISTRACTED BY THIS CHILD FUCKER.
In case you didn’t notice, he gains power and confidence when you try to act above the fray and not confront him.
It’s a media war, and fighting him and his propaganda in all ways is not a distraction, it’s an obligation.
Trump is unacceptable. Someone please put the kibbosh on everything about him.
Wonder if conservatives knew they were voting to destroy all America’s allegiances. Or if their brains were incapable of thinking that far ahead.
I’m gonna go with option 2.
Their only option was Trump or a black woman so they chose the “lesser evil” which (again) turns out to be the much bigger evil.
I honestly believe they didn’t think that trump was actually going to go through with a lot of it, and that ‘he talks a lot of shit, and triggers the libs’ and that’s it.
I think they just wanted four more years of Trump term 1 which was retarded but certainly not this horiffic.
There is still a wildly vocal support base online so it’s hard to hear the voters who have silently realised their mistake.
And yes it has cost allegiance, that won’t come back as easily this time.
Have you talked to a Republican or MAGA?
They cheer on destroying relations with Europe.
Unfortunately it’s not a position only MAGA takes. Horse shoe theory is real. There are extreme lefties who hate NATO and EU so much that they rather see the west fall completely apart and fall into chaos, since they think they will come on top when we crawl from underneath the rubble.
they hate our freedoms.
Have you talked to a Republican or MAGA?
They cheer on destroying relations with Europe.
They have been convinced that the entire world is somehow abusing the poor widdle usa.
- they don’t know what that word means
- they don’t care what that word means
- they think america doesn’t need anybody but america
- fuck anybody that is not america
They also seem to think “fuck at least 2/3 of America”.
They don’t consider those people “America”.
Things I’m seeing online are like … “he does what he says/he keeps his promises” “better for the economy” … fucked that none of those make sense and you’d have to be an idiot to believe
So many believe in the whole American exceptionalism shit so I think they believe some of their shit is their birthright or something.
Most Trump supporters probably can’t even name more than 10 non-english speaking countries that aren’t Mexico, Russia or China, and one their answers would probably be “Africa”.
International politics doesn’t even come close to their thought processes during election time.
I mean, they still cant grasp that or what it means.
Most stopped processing after “make America great again”. They really were thinking shit would just magically get great without any care as to the how and for who
Change my mind: Literally zero people want Greenland to be part of the US except Donald Trump and the people who have trained themselves to always agree with Donald Trump.
Literally one: Putin.
They don’t even have a fucking reason. Oh, it is an important strategic location? Good thing we already have a base there!
- Venezuela: oil, because renewables are becoming more expensive due to all of the raw materials going into AI-related tech and the US needs a backup plan if shit hits the fan and their bets don’t pan out
- Greenland: rare Earth metals, because they are the strategic bottleneck amongst said materials, and China stopped exploring them recently and I guess Australia and Canada are harder targets?
- Can you guess why China is circling Taiwan so hard nowadays? Because they want TMSC in order to overcome their current chip production limits (nm/transistor count)
- But why is that important? Because of Moore’s Law. We’ve hit the practical physical limits of transistor size vs molecular complexity with current manufacturing methods. We (humanity) are stagnating now, and can’t climb up The Kardashev scale no more.
- But we can’t stop because our resources and time are limited. Our planet is on a clock right now. So their apparent solution is: secure/stockpile rare Earth metals, sufficient energy reserves, and production means to train AGI, because apparently someone at some point put the idea that AGI would be the solution to the manufacturing problem.
- But this is all being exasperated by AI training since the start: resources invested, materials wasted, energy spent, planet heated/polluted. Now it’s a recursive problem and a self-fulfilling prophecy
- And everyone is betting they can solve it first, the will be the ones that’ll win the AGI race, and save us because they’re the good guys and know what they’re doing. Our wise leaders will sacrifice anything to save their citizens, even their own public image (see how noble Trump/Putin/whatever are being?) to save the planet. The end will justify the means surely, and people will forgive them once they realise what was going on all this time. Poor them.
- Nobody is even stopping to ask: “but what if we (countries) worked together instead of against each other?” because of people like Trump being in power.
There you go. My current working theory.
P.S: wonder where the existing rare Earth metals went? Ask the planned obsolescence/anti-repair people and the Phoebus Cartel.
The Kardashev scale
For added context for us dummies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
This is a great list. You have to accept the premise that White House’s agenda is literally techno feudalism though. As crazy as it sounds, I think it may be.
The people who have trained Donald Trump to agree with them. They want oil, minerals, land, etc.
Are we already forgetting that trump invaded Venezuela for oil, then the oil companies said “excuse me but we can’t profitably exploit their notoriously shitty oil”?
Part of being a literal Nazi is that the o.g. Nazis got themselves stuck in an increasing number of military quagmires not because they had to but because they refused to do consider the obvious peaceful solutions for their problems. The war machine had to be fed even at the cost of their own self-destruction.
Except this time they have a nuclear arsenal capable of wiping all civilization and somehow people aren’t freaking out nearly enough about that.
And then not have the capacity to refine the minerals so they have to send the stuff to China for processing
I believe the accelerationists want Greenland to join the US. Those guys are eager to see a nuclear war kick off.
literally zero? like literally? exactly zero Americans
what planet are you from
Reddit-world
snoo the alien
Greenland is the suicide capital of the world.
I’m pretty sure a lot of people are instinctively against US acquisition because they’ve been trained to think colonialism is always bad and what Trump does is always wrong.
List some instances where colonialism was good
Or trump did something that was good
Looking at history, colonialism has always been bad for the indigenous people.
Similary looking at history, what Trump does has always been wrong.
Also fuck you, if you think you know better whats good for Greenland than people who live in there.
they’ve been trained to think colonialism is always bad
There isn’t a single colonial project that was/is benevolent. So yes, colonialism is always bad. Also fuck off with the “acquisition” euphemism. What the USA is proposing is simply stealing somebody else’s land.
Greenland is the suicide capital of the world
You wanna pump those numbers up by subjecting them to US health care?
Are you actually arguing that the US should take Greenland? What in the actual fuck?
No, I would never disagree with the crowd.
The crowd is always right.
Fuck you asshole.
Trump may not always be wrong but it’s certainly in the high majority of things he does. Currently I can’t think of anything he has done that is actually positive.
I don’t know what kind of authority Greenland / Denmark would have to expel all US personnel from Greenland, but given there are US military bases there, I imagine there might be some contractual issues.
As an alternative, at this point, I think they should be blockading those bases, and searching any vehicle going into or out of it for supply reasons. Also institute a no fly zone over their base so they can’t just air drop stuff in.
No net new personnel going into the base (staffing swaps maybe… like 1 in 1 out). No new weapons allowed.
If Trump was going to try something, you don’t want them being able to prep those bases to assist with the assult any more than they already can, and you want them locked down with defences in their pathway before anything starts.
I don’t know what kind of authority Greenland / Denmark would have to expel all US personnel from Greenland, but given there are US military bases there, I imagine there might be some contractual issues.
Ask Cuba how that went.
Cuba was a stones throw away, and didn’t have the military capabilities of Denmark.
They also agreed to lease it for an absurd length of time.
Denmark has no such obligations.
I have a feeling trump is willing to call the “Denmark will put boots on the ground to forcibly expel/kill the invaders” (what I unfortunately suspect would be a) bluff.
He knows the Europeans will put up a token, face-saving resistance but have no enthusiasm for a full-on shooting war. Unfortunately this may be a correct assessment. But Europe and its allies still have the power to disrupt the US economy, and should seriously plan to do so if the US doesn’t back off.
Bluff or not, I believe you are correct.
