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Have the Americans, (Canadians, Australians) not been educated about history? WWII? Your grandfathers fought and died in the trenches in WWII to save you from fascism. THEY FOUGHT AND DIED. WTF??
Oh we all have.
Remember skinheads and how they aren’t seen anymore?
Ok so well You know how sometimes you see those white guys who are incels and get SUPER DUPER into WWII history and then pop out later saying they think hitler ‘had his reasons’ to do what he was doing and start rationalizing genocide because the world ‘isn’t fair to white guys anymore’.
and they have a fascination to end woke cuz they think that’s what took all their privilege over everyone else away. They see being educated about WWII being bad as being ‘woke’. And this all used to be the 12-15 yr olds playing 1942.
Yeah… so they infiltrated the conservative parties in all western countries right now and fighting to bring back facism. Conservatives you’ll notice is a conglomerate now and it’s rife with infighting because you have the old school conservatives that never went this way and it’s been flushed in with these scary beings they don’t want to piss off. That party would decimate if either side leaves too cuz they’d never have this win over the liberals should they divide again. So they are at odds with each other : pwn libs at the cost of constitution or certain demise?
You’ll notice There is a distinct homogeneousness to the conservatives in all countries right now too.
It just so happens to be on the heels of propaganda fake overs on global social platforms such as x and Facebook. Which just so happens to be the exact CEOs that showed up to the inauguration.
Trumpers have outright said they don’t care if he breaks the constitution. They are nazis. They want this.
Thank you, UltraGIGaGigantic, for this information. I was completely unaware. So, I guess hate is just part of the human experience.
Additionally,
“This comes as House Republicans have proposed a bill that would charge people arriving at a U.S. port of entry $1,000 in order to file an asylum claim — and a $3,500 fee for those sponsoring children. The right to seek asylum is a fundamental human right enshrined in international law, and the U.S. has never before charged petitioners.”
This is enough grounds for impeachment.
I’ve written this multiple times in the last few months. I’ll keep doing it because people need to get the message: There isn’t going to be an impeachment, and even if there were, it would fail.
The impeachment process requires cooperation from both houses of congress. A simple majority in the house of representatives must vote to approve articles of impeachment. Then the Senate decides what to do with them. They can hold a trial or they can just vote. Conviction requires a 2/3 majority of the Senate. This is why both attempts to impeach Trump previously already failed. The Senate Republicans simply moved to an immediate vote and killed it.
Now, consider that Republicans currently hold a majority in both houses. THERE WILL BE NO IMPEACHMENT barring a major upset in the midterm elections. Even then it is almost guaranteed to fail. Impeachment is not going to save us.
i think everyone realises that there will be no impeachment, but it’s useful to point out that any single 1 of these acts SHOULD result in impeachment and that it’s REPUBLICANS as a whole that are betraying their role in the system; not ONLY a single man
Exactly.
I dunno about you, but I wanna see how many impeachments Trump can rack up before he leaves office/dies. I’m hoping for at least triple digits.
That would just prove that we have no real consequences for breaking our laws if you’re the president and that impeachments are toothless.
Yeah. And would that matter? If things are going downhill no matter what, I want some excitement.
It’s good to know the suffering of American citizens is your preferred form of entertainment.
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Everything he does can be grounds for impeachment, but if the republicans control all branches of government even if impeached (he was impeached 3 times last time) they will never remove him from office.
EDIT: Y’all notice a common pattern on all those “peace officers” on the picture?
Holy fucking shit… 1000$ for an asylum claim? And 3500$ for children. This is monstrous. I am an immigrant and naturalized citizen to Canada and I never had to pay that much legal fees for immigration and citizenship.
The cruelty is the point. In fascism, empathy is seen as a sign of weakness and emasculation.
Militarize the police
It wasn’t yet? US police has fucking tanks and mraps, it is already militarized, just without the training and restraint
Clearly they need cybertrucks and Hugo Boss uniforms
A third executive order requires professional truck drivers to be proficient in English.
Higher requirements than the office of president.
The afghan refugees can fuck off. Only the terps should have been allowed refuge. And they have to be checked.
Police already have swat teams. Maybe if people obey the law, they won’t have to worry about MRAPs rolling down their streets.
Maybe the civilians should have those tools instead. Cause the citizens are supposed to keep the government in check, not the other way around.
But the left wing citizens are right. We should depend on the government for our safety and provide us with goods and services. They’d never lie to us. Burning down establishments and destroying property will show the right wing citizens to have different beliefs!!
Put it this way. If some good ole boys show up in my neighborhood. The Nortenos will probably deal with them before they even get set up.
Never vote for another fucking establishment democrat ever again.
They always fucking lie and say they can’t do anything, then a republican comes into office and does EVERYTHING.
Fuck everyone who voted against Bernie in the primaries.
Upset with Democrats for following the rules and blame them when Republicans break the law? We want all parties to follow the rules, not more politicians commiting crime to get their way.
Rules? The democrats talk about having their hands tied and they can’t do shit, and only float ideas around. Ideas that never materialize. The Republicans then claim the dems are dictators and do as they please and all the chaos is from their ideas that were never implemented. You know the green new deal and defund the police? Nothing of the green new deal ever happened, but the Republicans acted as if everything was fully enact. And police funding actually soared during their administrations, but Republicans act like all police forces were gutted (remember the cowardly police action at Uvalde? They claim it was the police defunding that caused it when the Uvalde PD’s funding was never touched).
I sometimes wished we lived in the fantasy world Republican propagandists say we live in. If we did, ironically none of the fascists we see online or on TV would be around since they would all be conveniently ‘disappeared’.
Because most (not all) of the Democrats are trying to govern, but most (not all) of the Republicans are trying to take advantage of the system.
The problem (as I see it) is that more money is being poured into the Republican party from many angles. They have reinforced think tanks, special interest groups, media platforms, billionaires, etc where they profiteer off of winning. The Democrats have some of that, but woefully behind.
I have some gloves-off shit I need to get off my mind and I feel the time and place for it is now because I’m very angry:
So… non voters, remember when we were telling everyone that would listen to “vote blue no matter who? Remember that? Of course you do- you threw that shit back at us like it was a god damned grenade. Remember that?
Yeah, well…. THIS is why we were saying that.
You see, we all saw this shit coming. Which is why we were saying to plug your fucking noses and just vote. Hell…, We even tried to reason with you- suggesting that-
“You’re not voting FOR Harris, you’re voting AGAINST fascism!”
You didn’t listen.
Your “…but, they’re doing a genocide!” was so deeply embedded via your little edgelord wind-tunnels, that most of you began to see it as an argument to win, instead of a point to be made-
Instead of doing anything substantial to help end it.
Well. Your point was definitely made. We all have heard you loud and clear. You collectively and VERY loudly agreed that you would be fine with the outcome either way- since genocide was going to be happening no matter who you voted for, right?
I do have to ask though…
Are you still fine with your choice? How about the memory of you, sitting on your asses and laughing at all the people rushing to voting booths in-between work and picking their kids up from daycare… How is that sitting with you? All those jokes and inflammatory remarks you hurled at the people who tried their fucking best to stop this with the only thing they have- their vote. The people, who tried to protect your sorry asses that couldn’t be bothered to even do the BARE FUCKING MINIMUM asked to protect our democracy.
I ask you… are those jokes still funny?
Is there any chance that any of you want to walk back all those accusations you made about everyone being sheep? What about those smug and arrogant jabs about how both sides are the same? About how democrats and republicans are somehow working together…
care to issue a statement here?
Because I’m pretty damned certain that NONE of this shit would be happening right now if you had listened to us when we told you that this was going to happen.
When HE fucking told you this would happen.
And while very few people here were ever in favor of the genocide in Palestine- much to the disagreement of the few that are around that are STILL arguing against this point- we knew and know- that the pain we face at home must be resolved before we can be of any aid in the pain endured by others in theirs… Especially when most of you couldn’t have even pointed to any of those homes on a map a year ago and a half ago.
It should be noted that this is not in any way to lay the entirety of blame at the feet of the stay-at-home/its-someone-else’s-problem protestors, but the numbers are in, and while your combined lack of effort might not make up the entirety of the ninety one million registered voters that stayed home, it’s a fair guess that between you and the ones that voted third party-
We could have avoided this.
Roughly four to five million votes. That’s all we needed. Just four to five million of you to have listened. But your arrogance, your fucking entitlement- wouldn’t let this happen.
So now here we are. With this shit. This tyrant king and his pet tech-gremlin, stripping away our rights hour by hour, day by day. And while dealing with this shit, I as an American, have to carry on hour by hour, day by day- being tossed into the same bucked with you.
I have to shoulder the blame right along side you. And it’s not fucking fair. I did my part. I voted. I canvased, I shouted from the fucking rooftops.
But I’ll digress…
I sincerely hope that high road you thought you were taking lands you all right to where it seems the rest of us are going….
Because no one deserves it more.
If you want me to vote, run candidates that represent my interests.
Stop telling the progressives to ‘fall in line.’ Start telling it to the neo-liberals.
Exhibit A
Save that energy for the next election cycle and direct it towards everyone voting for the establishment candidates.
If you can convince enough of them to nominate a candidate that supports the working class (you know, I actually voted here) then you can count on seeing me at the polls in the general election.
This guy has been annoying as all hell, blaming me for not voting after I stated I did… lol
2024 was the second highest turnout of any election on record. This isn’t the fault of non voters.
Democrats should have been begging voters to turn out, offering to give them anything they wanted to avoid Trump. Instead they actively refused the one thing voters were demanding while using trump almost like a threat
I’m so tired of this ‘democrats can’t fail, only be failed’ apologia from liberals. As things continue getting worse it will only become harder for democrats to win anything, especially if they continue refusing what voters are asking for while blaming them for the fascism dems are collaborating with.
Better get your boots laced because sitting on your ass and whining about non-voters won’t protect you, we’re all in this shit now because democrats couldn’t get themselves to challenge Israel’s genocide
The Democratic Party doesn’t give a fuck about America turning into a fascist nightmare. Never have, never will. Most of them would be happy to play puppet opposition if it meant that the checks would keep coming.
Try convincing someone like rhoeri of that.
They’d rather deflate the popular anti-wealth momentum within their own party just so they can deflect attention away from inequality, and thats why they’ll continue losing. You and I know that, but people like the above will continue placing blame on voters who are increasingly frustrated instead.
That’s how libs end up collaborating with fascism - they’re too invested in the existing and failing capital structure
rhoeri
I wonder how rhoeri’s campaign to pass electoral reform in their state is going? Surely someone couldn’t be that upset with 3rd party voters and not be driven to fix the voting system that is the source of the spoiler effect.
There’s none so deaf as those who are really deaf
I don’t know if it’s a legacy of organized religion or a devolution into tribalism, but they seem to see “vote blue no matter what” as the biggest part of their identity.
I’d rather put the blame where it lies.
Like Musk blaming Tesla’s poor performance on people boycotting his fascist behavior.
No, it’s like a voter blaming ninety million non-voters for not voting for a man who told them this would all happen.
Let’s not resort to analogies here. It is exactly what it is.
ninety million non-voters
Better start blaming them for chattel slavery too, then.
Oh hey rhoeri. Lol I scroll down and you’re right here! Perfect I was wondering how the electoral reform campaign in your state is going?
You do want to fix the source of the spoiler effect you are so very concerned with right? Imagine all the time you could save not having to make a thousand comments demanding people to vote for your preferred candidate.
I bet you’re really close to getting it passed. Looking forward to seeing it in the news friend.
[crickets from the most annoying liberal on the site]
Okay non voters, should we go lynch them or something? Come the fuck on
I’m sorry, am I not allowed to be angry that the assholes that helped cause this stand among us pretending to be victims of their own action??
Yes! You should be angry at the DNC for their shit platform.
To reiterate, I voted, people voted for trump too you know. If we had a perfect election system to begin with there would not be a non voting demographic, now as much as i would too like to live in that reality, that isnt this one. If im going to somehow find more contempt to millions of americans rather than the few up top, right now, I’d be a sad sack of shit.
So glad we have non voters to tell us how bad things could have been!
Enjoying Trump?
When you are done on your soapbox, maybe talk about what can be done instead of who you blame.
The bed is made, all we have left to do now is lie in it.
Moving forward, the best thing that can happen from this is to ensure that those that caused it see the damage they helped create so that if we ever have the opportunity again, they’ll have learned from it.
And I’ll be on this soapbox until I feel like I’ve said my fucking peace.
Block me.
So what exactly are you doing to clean up the Democrat Party of a leadership who managed to lose against none other than Donald Trump, TWICE?
Or are you just another tribalist muppet that thinks “the chief is always right and needs not concede anything to anybody and it’s everybody else who has to just do what the chief wants” hence rages against those who are not of your tribe and didn’t follow the wishes of your “chiefs” rather than against your “chiefs” for not even trying to appeal to those other people?
Because it would’ve been way easier for the handful of people in the Democrat Party leadership to, rather than totally refusing to care as they did, listen to and start addressing the concerns of the millions who were hesitant in voting Democrat, than for those millions of voters to magically change their minds when the party which should have been trying to appeal to them couldn’t give a rat’s arse about their worries.
Singlehandedly giving .world it’s reddit archetype.
Yawn…
I rEsT mY cAsE
“We should punish those who objected to a broken system” sounds pretty fascist to me.
They punished themselves just fine.
Have you learned we can change our voting system so people can vote how they want yet? Do you need some informative videos to explain our current First-past-the-post voting system and the alternatives that let people vote how they want?
praise the lord, but really… it’s time to think about what the people have to do to reign this nightmare in.
Except Palestinian babies. They deserve what they get.
—blue maga
I mean, they’re dead now.
So mission accomplished?
Brown American babies are up to join them next.
Wanted to add you make ml’s look completely sane, given how much you post about them.
Exhibit A
If youre accusing me of being an ml, I’ve got news for you.
Seriously, what are you trying to achieve? We get it, you’re self righteous and need to whine, but what does any of this actually acomplish?
I’m not self-righteous at all. I’m just sick of pretending these assholes didn’t help cause the problem they fucking complain about every day here.
And the irony of you calling me self-righteous while these assholes are responding that they have every entitled reason not to vote against tyranny.
Fucking hilarious.
So even though i voted for Harris, i get no qualms with how that - failed - campaign was ran? It failed, a campaigns only purpose is to win and it failed. We dont fail our representatives, they fail us. Tell me what isnt righteous if I cant critique a campaign.
Excuse me, but if I remember correctly, wasn’t that election one with the most people voting ever? Kind of odd to be blaming non-voters when the voting turnout was a lot larger than usual.
Where do you get your news?
Am Not an American . Are the Democrats now doing something to be more appealing in the future, or they just rely on Trump to keep being awful?
I think this is hard for people from other countries to understand. Our Democrats are not an opposition party. We don’t have that concept in our system. I’ll admit I was naive to it before Trump started Trumping. Even after the first Trump I was thinking, “Well, that was fucking dumb. Glad we found our sanity again.” And I was wrong.
I wouldn’t have been able to articulate this before. I credit my time on Lemmy for some of it. But in reality you can’t explain any of this shit show UNLESS you accept that our entire political system is now structured to serve the rich at the expense of the peasants. Universal healthcare is a no brainer. Infrastructure like rail and renewables is a no brainer. Affordable childcare and reasonable wages is a fucking no brainer. UNLESS the incentives for those in power are not aligned with the good of the people.
Democrats don’t care that they’re not in power, as long as the establishment keeps getting paid.
Now, of course, there can be those like AOC and Sanders who buck that trend. Leaders with those types of values do tend toward the Democratic party. But those are the exceptions. And they can’t save us.
InverseParallax is right, my friend. The Republicans aren’t paying you by the word. Next time, just say something stupid like “Both Sides Are The Same!” and keep it down to a single paragraph.
Jesus, somewhere there’s a GOP party operative that’s literally wondering whether or not he paid for that whole screed to depress turnout.
At the moment, our fiercest Democrat just voted for the new law to allow The government to censor anything on the internet they don’t like. I think it’s fair to say it’s not going well.
And people expected Kamala to be different why?
Funny, why don’t you name the law and let people look it up and read what it actually says? Are you talking about S.146, a bill to prohibit the nonconsensual online publication of intimate visual depictions of individuals, and requiring platforms to remove it upon request?
So in other words, if someone posts nudes of you online and you object to it, this law would require the site to take it down upon your requesting it… is THAT the censorship you are crying about??
You mean the one that’s so vaguely worded that it can be used by the government to silence anything and remove free speech?
Why didn’t you publish the entire full text of the bill here and all the possible outcomes along with a bunch of news articles listing pros and cons of such thing?
Christ, if you think that’s crying please don’t ever have kids.
I think now is a good time for third party too get going. I’m sure a bunch of left leaning Democrats could take a good chunk of the vote and tea party the Democrats.
We’ve passed a line, sans drastic things happening, there won’t be any meaningful votes anymore.
Political IQ Exam: Do you think voting for a third party candidate is a viable option in a First Past the Post system"
The answer to that question is the simplest way possible to identify a complete lack of political intellect.
Wow you’re really committed to that user name .
The Democrats are probably praying that Trump lives till he’s 1000 years old, otherwise they would need to do something more than not being Ttump
they would need to do something more than not being Ttump
The only thing not being Trump has gotten them so far was one more term of an old white guy who was barely left of the right.
#resistance #liberal
Because no one deserves it more.
Truly the most evil demographic of people, non-voters.
Well said brother.
I held my nose and voted for Kamala, but 2016, 2020, and 2024 should have been cakewalks for Dems but they refuse to win the easy races by picking the worst candidates, sure 2020 fell for Dems but that wasn’t for lack of trying to lose. The Democrat party keeps putting their fingers on the scale for the losing option in the primaries.
the non-voters either dint bother voter, or said it doesnt affect them right now.
The genocide stuff(yes we know its deplorable) was a wedge issue grift started and perpetuated by russia
Yeah, funny how after election day, genocide stopped being the #1 voting issue here, but that said, there were a handful of useless idiots who actually bought into the rooskie psyop, and you occasionally see their pathetic attempts to justify their choices up to today.
Why are you okay with your fellow Americans being unrepresented in the voting booth?
Are you working to replace First past the post voting in your state? People should be free to vote for those they deem best, while still counting their vote against those they don’t want in office.
We don’t need to wait for a miracle from congress. How we vote us controlled at the state level. Alaska has already done away with FPTP voting. Alaskan Republicans were so upset that Ranked Choice voting kept Sarah Palin out of office they offered up a referendum to go back to FPTP voting. The people of Alaska voted to keep it. Other republican controlled states are passing legislation to outlaw any voting system other then First-past-the-post voting
Why do you want to use the same voting system republicans prefer? Do you support democracy? Or do you get off on telling people how to vote?
Videos on alternative voting systems
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.
I didn’t even have to hold my nose for Kamala. She seemed fine. Nothing amazing but fine, just like Biden.
But then again I don’t care about the pressing issues like how someone laughs.
Yeah, it’s all relative. There are plenty of issues with Kamala, and I think most of us here on Lemmy would prefer somebody considerably more progressive. However, we in the US live in a country full of people who just actively chose Donald fucking Trump, and every single one of them lived through his first term. Even if they didn’t live in the US at the time, they heard all about it if they cared to listen.
But hey, let’s see the bright side. Maybe accelerating straight into crazy town will see us wrap back to the next period of peace and democracy more quickly.
I hear she wore a tan suit just like Obama
If the dems wanted to win, Bernie would have been our candidate in 2016, not Hillary. If the dems weren’t working for the same people the reps are, Harris would have taken over as president when it was CLEAR that Biden was not fit to lead anymore. If the dems wanted to prevent fascism, they would have had an election to decide who the candidate will be, not just stick Harris in and tell us to vote for her.
‘Well if you didn’t want fascism you should have given me what I want!’
That sounds like MAGA talk.
as opposed to the party demanding what THEY want?
Actually if there’s one thing about the democrats, they don’t demand much of shit.
That’s why you hate them, and I am fine with them.
I don’t want to deal with assholes on either side, I want a fucking functional country.
the Democrats refused to get anything done that could actually stop Trump. You remember how Biden fumbled his presidential run but wouldn’t let go of the race to Harris? Do you also remember Harris courting evil right wingers in an attempt to “reach across the aile”?
Do you also remember how they snubbed Sanders with fucking Hillary?
I hope they have the life they voted for.
Same.
Nicely put. And on an ozma post to boot.
