Be grateful for the gig economy, Peasants!
I wouldn’t work for Facebook if they tripled my current salary.
I take that back, I have enough leave saved up I could reasonably take a 4 month sabbatical so I would for about 4 months to make a years salary in that short amount of time and then tell Facebook to fuck off.
I wouldn’t work for Facebook if they tripled my current salary.
Okay, tap the breaks. Triple my salary and I’m retiring very comfortably before I hit 50. Would happily take the Zuck Bucks for that kind of cash, especially if I knew I’d be ushered into the Leisure Class ten years earlier.
Also… who else are you working for that’s less toxic? Like, Fuck Zuck, but he’s hardly an outlayer in the world of narcissist CEOs.
In all seriousness he absolutely is worse than most. He operates on more impactful sale, a third of the world is his monthly userbase. His whims hurt people.
I’ll just say they do exist. It’s not with out caveats mind you but its been pretty good for 25 years
You mean in 4 months you’d unilaterally change your ToS. They’re familiar with that practice, they’ll get it.
Good for you? 10000s of other people would.
FANG jobs are still highly desirable and prestigious.
Which is really the problem. They are using the Harley Davidson business model. Make something hard to aquire and people will perceive it as more valuable. They have a tough interview process, it demands skills that aren’t needed for the job. The job itself is just like any other large corp job. Lots of overhead, lots of bureaucracy. They do this because it keeps their pipeline of candidates full. But also because people who get hired will often feel like they were given a chance to prove themsleves or something. But in reality, very few people will know the difference between someone who was highly successful there and someone who was not.
And most of them have a lots of custom software that was developed in house. I interviewed a guy from AWS not long ago. Nice guy, clearly trapped in a shitty work environment. Been there long enough to be senior. Trouble is he had no experience or even exposure to the tools we needed. All he had was AWS experience. If he was less than senior, that would be fine, but for a senior roll, he needed to have somthing else. They do that to make it garder for people to leave.
In my mind, fang is a waste of talented people. With the skills needed to pass the interview, most could do a lot more somewhere smaller.
yeah, but those jobs carry a lot more social prestige, and that is very valuable in other ways.
FANG? Facebook, Amazon, ???, Google.
Nabisco. Lots of fancy chips.
Or maybe Nvidia?
No, believe it or not it used to be Netflix because it was so high in the stock market value.
They also pioneered some pretty cool tech to support their streaming.
Not sure if this is a whoosh moment in that Netflix is on the decline, but, the N is Netflix 😄
They’re going to need to show us the strangest things they can find to stay relevant at this point!
MANG?
Well yeah I get that. But I wouldn’t trust them for stable employment when they make decisions like this. Of all the FANG jobs about the only one I would trust is Apple honestly.
Very few jobs offer stable employment, esp ones that are high paying.
You’re totally right. High reward, high risk. The trick is to maximize the reward by keeping risk under a threshold. Unless you’re 25 with no responsibilities then it’s balls to the wall, I’ll sleep when I’m dead.
You will come to regret wasting your life on work.
Imagine you are so dumb, you decide to rename your company for its biggest failure, and then you get to fire everybody else because they are redundant. Facebook renaming itself Meta is like Tesla changing its name to Cybertruck Inc.
I can’t wait until the AI bubble is over and drags the worst people under.
Is AI the final bubble they’ll inflate? Usually some new tech gets hyped when the old tech fails. See the progression through deep learning, Blockchain, NFT. Or will they do robotics and suddenly it’s robots everywhere. Maybe quantum computing.
Ai Is also a highly specialized technology with a limited number of use cases. though you cant brute force improvement through scaling like you can with ai, so it wouldnt be as good of an investment capital black hole
Quantum computing will only be useful to a handful of people instead of mass consumer use. Quantum computers are mainly for cybersecurity.
only be useful to a handful of people
So in the end it’s even more useful than the metaverse or NFT, and they hyped that shit up like crazy.
Quantum processors are already a thing. I dont think we’ll see quantum powered consumer products for a while but I think they will eliminate the need for massive data centres and should be way better for the environment.
I dont think we’ll see quantum powered consumer products for a while
Or ever. Quantum processors have to operate close to 0k to work
Idk, Miles Dyson was able to engineer a neural-net processor with room temperature superconductors all the way back in 1995…
What do you think we’ll see instead. When it comes to tech, id never say never. But I know what you mean.
When it comes to tech, id never say never.
Eh, there is a degree to that, but there’s also the fact that you can’t just break thermodynamics. With quantum effects you need to remove a lot of noise, and near-0k temperatures will do that.
Not only that, is there even a practical purpose to getting quantum computing on an individual level? While it’s better for specialized problems, current transistor tech is way better at general use cases and is good enough that we don’t really need significantly more power. And even if it was technologically possible to shrink dpwn quantum computing enough to fit in a desktop of phone, what’s going to be the cost of it compared to transistors?
Only small parts of specific algorithms get a boost from quantum computing. I could imagine the NAG library offering quantum as a service for some of their routines
You mean for comlutation
AI is kind of different just because of the magnitudes of investments and loans at stake.
It does feel like the moment when somebody pushes ask their chips forward and declares all-in.
Yeah. I mean blockchain is sorta resource intensive but more distributed. Crypto is basically the same thing. AI requires gigawatts of power, is disrupting almost every tech based manufacturing, uses tons of natural resources. All to create terrible content, hallucinate completely made up answers, and automate things to destroy themselves. Great idea guys.
Do get me wrong, I’m not totally against AI. I think it can be a useful tool especially if sandboxed and run locally. But these giant data centers sucking up all the electricity and water are just no bueno.
funny thing and “robots” are mostly controlled by humans.
Or atleast pre-programmed by a human.
Tbf, Tesla probably sold more cyber trucks than Horizons got users.
i think meta largely survives because they got people addicted to instagram, FB via propaganda, and now whatsapp. if it was just solely FB they have, it wouldve been a different sotry.
Meh some people just use it I just use it for Facebook marketplace and porn.
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More like XxXCyberTrucKKK
Can’t wait to read a near-future article about all those employees making a new company that is unionized private non-stock and does better than Zuck’s Facebook. Making an open-source Facebook alternative so good that they end uo replacing Facebook altogether
Also, some people were open to making an open source business community on this platform to share how to get different businesses up and running, and how to grow/maintain them. Wonder if they would still like to do that
You must be new around these parts. Facebook (and the rest of big tech) are monopolists. For the past ~26 years, the tech industry has been using illegal anticompetitive tactics to suppress competition and destroy potential competitors. The government has done nothing, because they’re stupid and think “big = good”.
An example is Instagram. It was a start up that was growing rapidly, and actually became a threat to Facebook. What did Facebook do? They placed a massive bid to buy the company at like 10x their actual market value. It’s an offer so huge that every investor in Instagram would support the deal even if the founders were against it.
A sane government would see that as an obvious anticompetitive decision, and block the merger. Facebook should instead use that money to improve their own product and compete fairly. Obviously, that didn’t happen, the merger went through, and Facebook is still the owner of Instagram. Users and the tech industry at large are worse off.
Look at TikTok’s huge success. If they weren’t a Chinese company, they probably would have met a similar fate. Unfortunately for Facebook, they weren’t allowed to buy a Chinese company.
To be honest I prefer one place such as facebook to 108 places they acquired like facebook. Can you imagine having 108 platforms to register at and keep track, because each of your friends prefers a different one?
*because they are bribed to think “big = good”.
Don’t think they’re stupid; they want you to think that. They are greedy, short-sighted, and unempathetic to their fellow man. Their actual intelligence varies widely, but there are brilliant minds among them that lack the psychological traits that prevent our species from wiping itself out.
all those employees making a new company that is unionized private non-stock and does better than Zuck’s Facebook
Facebook thrived because it got access to cheap money through Carlyle Investments. They used that cheap money to buy up a bunch of their competitors (most famously, Instagram, but there’s 108 different acquisitions in the Wikipedia list alone) and either insource them or close them out.
Very real possibility that a gaggle of Facebook refugees form a new company, get some decent Series A or B financing, start to take off on user numbers, and grow big enough to be worth adding to some bigger firm’s M&A list.
But the idea that they’re going to capture the 1B+ user Facebook market share? On what hardware? With what IT support? In partnership with which ISPs? Through which advertisement agencies? Come on, dude. Think about how these businesses function in practice. Setting aside how many “Facebook Clone” companies have flopped, there’s a value-add to Facebook that comes directly from their deplorable business model. You can’t make a “better Facebook” without sacrificing what makes the Facebook revenue play work. That’s before asking how you’re going to win a headbutt fight with a dinosaur.
It would take a lot to replace Facebook at this point, not only that but they are into much more then just social media. It would be awesome to see something happen, but even Google failed to beat them.
That being said, I can’t tell you how many times people started a business network, resource, etc on Reddit over the past 15 years. They don’t work, people get bored, people show up for the first few days then forget they exist, etc. It would be awesome to help others get to the point where they could launch and become successful, but it takes time and every on both sides, and most people aren’t willing to do the work either way long term.
I wish I didn’t agree with you, however, I have friends who rail against Facebook constantly and still send me Instagram links and use their meta headsets. Facebook is too ingrained into the social media structure to just easily be replaced. There’s about as much chance of replacing Facebook as Blue sky was at replacing Twitter. No matter how much people hate the people in charge, they’re still going to continue to use their product.
Im in that boat. Only reason im on Instagram is because the only way I can stay in continued contact with my friends and family is through it. If not for that this would be the only social media I would use
Cool and they well eat and pay their bills with unicorn farts and rainbows.
Personally, I prefer social communities to not be so heavily monetized. On the other hand, it would be nice if Frendica ran a bit better, but I can hardly complain if I’m not giving any time/money to that project to make it so.
Remember diaspora?
Why is that not already a thing?
Being blunt. I am 48 and have 3 kids to feed and 2 have disabilities. I have no interest in the risk that comes with doing something pro bono on the hopes it will work especially when everyone else is doing it pro bono. There’s no immediate individual incentive.
I may want socialism but I live in a capitalist world. I can’t have me and my family survive on good feelings.
Problem is, what you call “surviving” is just kicking the can down the road.
I don’t think the onus is on you alone. Nor do I think you need to play hero.
You need to be honest. You are feeding the beast that will eat your family later. Yes, you get another day. Meanwhile your horizons just got narrower, as you assist forces in your world that are closing off (privatizing) your world.
Just look at it all in context. We certainly can’t just keep indefinitely playing along nicely in the name of survival. At some point your world becomes a place not even worth surviving in. Are we looking for that point?
Nothing changes until the government reprioritizes which system is in play and then it becomes a global problem. I think we both want the same thing, but the reality is we aren’t getting it until it gets much worse and/or blood spills and I have neither the capacity nor the appetite for either.
Kinda1000% fuck Meta employees tho frBoo fucking hoo, psychos, you know exactly what rideyou signed up for. Kinda like this from Zuck tbh even tho hes a complete ghoul. Meta workers are not on the right side of the billionaire/labor dichotomy
I hope their fucking stocks fail to vest or whatever. Fuckem
You do realize that the problem is that people need money? Yea, many would likely have a choice where to work but many might Not have had options.
What is needed is financial basic freedom for everyone. Countries need to sit down and figure out how to make it work because as it stands, jobs have turned into a form of slavery by design.
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I really hope you can see the difference between a tech company hire and dudes on the streets playing SS
There’s no difference when the tech company is used to push propaganda supporting the SS and the workers don’t stand up to it. They are complicit and therefore responsible.
Meta is largely the reason for the current state of the world via their purposeful boosting of alt-right talking points. They’ve helped incite a genocide ffs. They’re not actively on the streets shooting people but this is what the company pushed for
I’m not American but I am in tech and have been unemployed since January and even though my financial situation is grim, Meta and Palantir are two companies I would never, ever work for or even apply to. There’s always plenty of other companies to apply to (which is what I did and I start somewhere tomorrow!)
The difference is smaller than you think
They certainly think they do a lot of good. We sit off in the distance reading the latest Reddit threads about whatever latest outrage has happened, and it looks all negative to us. But from their point of view they are serving 3 billion people’s needs to connect and network.
I’m not saying I see it that way. But you seem to imply that they all know they work for an Evil Empire but they truly don’t see it that way. There are a lot of young people there who don’t look past the cachet of working for a well known and successful company. And there are wiser ones who genuinely believe the good outweighs the bad.
That’s bullshit. Almost all meta hires are poached, and they’re not coming for you if you’re not in a position to make good money.
The vast majority of these people chose to leave an already cushy job to get in there.
I mean if I worked for a soul sucking corporation (pick one Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc.) and another shitty corporation (Meta) offered me a substantial pay raise why wouldn’t I take it?
Isn’t that the issue? We’ve created a system where you need money to live, and basically if you buy food and have a place to live you contribute to a system of exploitation.
I mean if I worked for a soul sucking corporation (pick one Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc.) and another shitty corporation (Meta) offered me a substantial pay raise why wouldn’t I take it?
But that’s not the real scenario. Monstruous companies aren’t the only jobs around. There’s a bajillion smaller and more ethical companies that hire the same kind of profiles as Meta.
Also the mega-corporations tend to not poach small fish from each other. Sure they’ll go after each other’s top performers but there’s a tacit agreement that “normal workers” are not fair game.
Clearly you have not been looking for a job lately. I’ve known people with experience and degrees that have been searching for like 6 months. It’s bad out there, especially for the tech industry.
Idk why you want to fight the worker and not the corporations
I’ve known people with experience and degrees that have been searching for like 6 months
If that is the case then Meta probably won’t touch their resume with a 10-ft pole.
Right so now you’ve taken 2 steps back. It’s not more moral to work for any other corporation that meta is poaching either.
Is it more moral to work for Amazon? Microsoft? Walmart?
Not really. The worker should try to improve their material condition since that’s the position we’ve all been put in.
You suggest everyone go work for a “small buisness” when those jobs simply don’t exist.
I don’t know why you are trying to shame the worker for trying to survive in the system.
Fun fact btw Walmart and Amazon are the 2 largest employers in the US. I suppose all their workers should quit and go work for Bob’s Bait & Tackle down the road. I’m sure he has about 3 million jobs just lying around
You do know that meta doesn’t only have high level jobs, right? There cannot just be middle managers everywhere without the bog standard workers.
What kind of perception do you have of tech giants? That all who work there are some kind of imaginary elite?
meta doesn’t only have high level jobs
The majority of their hires are experienced profiles. “Bog standard” worker in Meta is already a pretty high paying job as entry level work is massively outsourced.
all who work there are some kind of imaginary elite?
That’s not at all what i’m saying. I’m saying if you can land a job at Meta then you can absolutely find a job elsewhere. There is nobody in the world who is stuck between an empty belly and accepting a position at Meta. They’re just stuck between making good money somewhere, and making better money at Meta.
Noooo everyone at meta is making at minimum 300,000 a year.
They poach their janitors
I would imagine their janitors don’t actually work for meta, but are provided via a complex web of contracts that helps them pay the janitors as little as possible, while enriching a middle man who does… little…
Exactly. Mega corps don’t touch entry level work, they do exactly as you say and pay a friend of theirs so that this friend can steal wages from poor people and guarantee them floor-level prices.
almost all Meta hires are poached
You think they poached “almost all” of their 80k employees?
It’s kind of standard practice at this level. They get a million resumes a week in inbound, of which they hire very little, and they have an army of recruiters who go searching for people in the industry, who for the most part already have a job.
It’s way more profitable to let small startups grow juniors into competent employees and pluck them when they’re ripe, than to take risks on junior profiles. (not that i condone it but it’s a sad truth of recruitment)
Countries need to sit down and figure out how to make it work because as it stands, jobs have turned into a form of slavery by design.
Yeah, they already did that, and “slavery by design” is what they came up with.
The next time, we don’t consult our country, we force them to do what WE want.
I saw an interview with some anonymized meta employees and all of them knew they were doing fucked up stuff. Then they said they were doing it for the stocks the company give them after x years worth millions.
So yeah, fuck them.
Why stop there? Fuck all employees of the owning class. How dare they be employed
Meta is a special kind of evil, they’re exemplary
While I do generally agree, there are a LOT of companies that have their own special kind of evil, and ultimately if people are choosing between being employed and working for one, they will work for one. There simply aren’t enough ethical jobs for the number of people who would prefer to work for ethical companies
Its not a dichotomy. Its a spectrum. Meta, palantir they are at the bad end.
Nobody working at facebook has any illusions that they work at a company that helps people make connections and express themselves online. They know its a manipulation machine that oversteps its boundaries, constantly, hoovering up their data. They are also well paid, so its not bread line or facebook. Its a choice.
Many are starting to wake up, but the damage is done. So, its also perfectly reasonable for anyone to not feel sorry for them, if their choice to screw over the world ended up being less beneficial to them than they hoped. That doesnt mean they deserve vitriol or they had it coming.
Couple things.
Firstly; just because they are well-paid does not imply they have the means to survive without employment. In fact that places them far closer to you and I than to somebody capable of living solely off the labor of others. Additionally, large tech companies utilize H1B visas as a form of coercion for both the visa holder and the other employees.
Secondly; you open your first paragraph with
Nobody working at facebook has any illusions
But open paragraph #2 with
Many are starting to wake up
Those two statements contradict each other.
That’s not my point, though! My point is; blame the goddamn reptilian tech bro billionaire and the shareholders. Blame the government that allows Meta to exist at all. Blame the dysfunctional and cancerous-at-best socioeconomic systems that allow either to exist.
Or, to put it more succinctly; don’t hate the player, hate the game.
Being aware it’s not what they present themselves as is not the same as realising you’re helping fascists and genocides.
The world isn’t black and white. I work for a company that’s been around for over a decade. We work with hospitals to improve operational efficiency. This leads to safer outcomes for patients, better working conditions for staff, and less wasted time or money.
We recently signed a limited contract with palantir for a certain software data structure. It’s limited the very specific things. I’m not happy about the contract, but I’m still proud of what I do. I’ve been in different hospitals with and without our company. It’s a big difference and it can literally save lives.
Should I quit then spend months looking for a new job in an economy currently with a very high unemployment rate just because someone online thinks the world is black and white?
lol, what part of saying it’s a spectrum makes you think it’s black and white. We all make decisions based on our interest, and we all have a line. You seem to have gotten closer to yours.
Only because they’re in a position to be. Lots of other companies/execs would literally kill to be in the same position. They’re not not pieces of shit out of the kindness of their hearts, it’s because they don’t have the power to be.
If you’re willing to defend Meta employees on those grounds you’ve got to be willing to give ICE employees a pass too.
Facebook and the other meta companies have done AT LEAST as much damage to society. MORE when you consider they’re ALSO partly responsible for ICE.
facebook is actually the first to do the most damage, by being one of the sole platform for russian backed propaganda to bring people into conservatism. boomers/gen x are the users.
Can you explain that last part about them being partly responsable for ICE? ICE has existed for a few years before Facebook was even founded, and they were also evil back then.
They were evil but constrained and minor. Their current power is the direct result of the anti-immigrant flames social media like Facebook have been fanning with their algorithms for years.
I don’t see a reason to assume Facebook employees are, to a man, engaging in war crimes the way ICE officers are. Maybe some of them are pushing back against their overlords, like these Google employees.
Now if it were to a man… Just yesterday I learned of a Mozilla employee vouching for their partnership with Anthropic, with suspiciously close timing to when Anthropic was used to justify the bombing of children in Iran.
It’s the company they keep and the crimes they enable with their support. You don’t have to be running the gas chambers to know what managing the punchcards is doing.
I was a 6 figure FAANG level employee in the early aughts doing consulting/development, realized I was contributing to predatory lending, quit, and took a 15k a year teaching job overseas instead. If I’d not made that choice, I wouldn’t consider someone who held me personally responsible at some level for the financial crisis to be out of line.
If that’s the case, then are all Mozilla employees also complicit?
Mozilla Used Anthropic’s Mythos to Find and Fix 271 Bugs in Firefox
U.S. Strikes in Middle East Use Anthropic
(cc @Nomad@infosec.pub)
Using a tool versus helping develop one is a very strong distinction. It’s not great that they’re paying for Anthropic, obviously, but they’re also not contributing to Anthropic’s code base. If they were? They’d absolutely be complicit.
The actual product Mozilla is building is still a net positive, or at least not negative, product to put into the world.
Meta developers can make NO such claim. What they are actually MAKING is negative and destructive and they know it. It could not exist without their efforts. The fact another office decides what specific addictive algorithms to use is irrelevant.
you don’t choose to work in a factory, but as a sw eng myself, you definitely choose to work in a faang corp. fuck the owning classes but remind the faang workers they’re trying to become the next owner and betraying the working class at the same time.
Really depends on if it is c-suite or the cleaners tbh.
I’m not gonna say ‘Fuck wendy the cleaner who desperately took the first job available to support her sick mother’.
Fuck the brass tho, obvs.
Thats unlikely for that company, i woukd think. There arent really AI janitors yet as far as i know
Not anymore anyway, they got zucc’d
Honestly doubt that, theyre probably externally contracted out already
Yeah another thought to have though is that 8,000 Meta employees suddenly on the market makes life harder for other people who’ve been laid off and are still looking for work, some of them for a whole year without success.
Thats the only audience i maybe have empathy for but im sure things are quite different at that level of jobs and compensation
For years, Meta has been hell for smaller companies trying to hire, because Meta would routinely offer $100k over the market rate, and hire people just to hire them. I swear about half a dozen times I interviewed people and made them job offers only to realize afterward that all I accomplished was giving them a bargaining chip for their negotiation with Meta.
Now it’s the reverse. People are out in the cold searching for work while Meta dumps all those people they overhired back out into the market, where their time at Meta gives them an edge. Yes, we can hate Meta all we want but it still looks good on a resume.
And yes life is different on tech wages but these are still people with bills to pay and families to feed. My HCOL property taxes are equivalent to some people’s entire mortgage.
One thing to note is Facebook bought a ton of other companies. So some of those people didn’t choose to work there at all they just stayed because they needed to keep their job. Some may even be trapped by circumstances like visas or medical needs. Companies don’t only screw over their users. They buy people and screw them too.
Staying is still a choice tho and if thry were retained, they likely tasted some action. Im not going to feel sorry for the closest analog billionaires have in the labor force, they will be fine, however impossibly far apart as they may be in reality
When the billionaires own everything you have no choice to work anywhere else.
They have a choice. I remember thinking the same thing until some ex-Meta employee was like “bruh, dont feel sorry for us, we basically already had it made”
Even if Meta replaced its entire workforce with AI, payroll savings would only be roughly $27 billion, a fraction of the $145 billion infrastructure spend.
Hey now, that infrastructure is good for, like, 3 years, so it’s really like spending $145 billion to save $81 billion. And that doesn’t even start to get into how much it costs to operate that infrastructure.
All these companies bragging about AI is just synonymous with how little they care about people.
an ANDROID is unlikely to have human emotions.
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No need to shoot him, we just need an independent court to put him on trial for enablement of the Rohingya genocide and knowingly gaining $14 B in commissions from fraud (while developing a “playbook” to claim that this was legal).
Don’t even need to shoot him, it would be much better to give him 50 year community service as a junior janitor on the Rohingya refugee camp on the island of Bhasan Char should he be found responsible. If he is too good for that, than he can do 50 years in prison instead.
This should also apply to any other senior executives involved in these two cases.
And these are just two cases, there are definitely other, less well known, “regional” cases involving Meta goons and Zuckerberg.
Not just him. All the billionaire leeches please.
Your comment may seem extremist. People may find it distasteful or even straight up illegal.
But then I wonder: wouldn’t a similar comment have been received the same way if it was made about Hitler in 1920, before he became what we know now? And yet, it would have been the sane thing to do…
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Content moderation like this is the silliest fucking thing
Ok, but if you work for ZuckerDork (or anyone like him) and get laid off then I have no sympathy. None at all.
You were and are part of the problem. The end.In fact, getting laid off is far better than what I wish for you.
Which company of angels are you working for? So I know where to work next
The NHS.
Ah yes that saint known as the UK government.
I know, free healthcare. Those dastardly bastards. How dare they!!!
…say, what free healthcare service is your government providing?
Dude… Get real, people need jobs and will take what they can get.
These people are at a much different level, they went there for stock
And I’m sure they’ll willingly leave their well paying jobs in this economy…
Found the jobless manchild.
I’d kind of expect more than that.
Meta’s said that they’re going to to be shifting focus from VR to AI.
It looks like Meta’s VR wing employs 15,000 people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_Labs
Number of employees: 15,000 (2026)
Though…hmm. It says that there are some AI things under that as well, so maybe that’s not all VR:
Reality Labs, formerly Oculus VR, is a business and research unit of Meta Platforms (formerly Facebook Inc.) that produces virtual reality (VR) and augmented reality (AR) hardware and software, including virtual reality headsets such as the Quest, and online platforms such as Horizon Worlds. In June 2022, several artificial intelligence (AI) initiatives that were previously a part of Meta AI were transitioned to Reality Labs.
WTF are they doing with fifteen thousand employees?
Given that the Metaverse stuff hasn’t been commercially successful thus far, burning a lot of money.
I have a Quest headset, and I have no idea. But of course I don’t want anything to do wih their “metaverse”, so I would’t be able to see where most of their work went.
What I can tell you is the parts I did use, like the system UI and app store, are complete shit and never improved one bit through the years.
The app store is especially terrible for a company with those resources. It’s using the worst machine translation I ever saw (forget LLMs, this is a lot worse than 2010 google translate). It has terrible search and discoverability options for a store that has comparatively so little content.
Whenever I find something interesting in it, it’s also regularly failing transactions with a major bank in my country. I’m almost listing that as a pro since it discouraged me to get stuff from a headset-locked store that will be completely abandoned very soon.
I was about to wrote a long letter about how it would be good if he finally fire Carmac for the good of all humanity, but the guy already got himself into some separate AI gig. Worst timeline :(
Seems he’ll really need that expensive security detail after all.
I hope they saved up their undeserved bonuses for slapping their name on other people’s work :)
the ANDROID zuckerborg sees humans as expendables. he is a pretty calculated CEO though, he and parker ensured that he has majority country over FB’/META so he cant be ousted by a BOARD.
We can get as angry as we want at billionaires, the sociopathic ghouls that they are, but I really feel that’s just a distraction to encourage us to look a symptom when we really need to focus on the disease.
I am curious what do you see as being disease? What’s going on in the US seems like a pretty typical oligarch takeover of political parties, judiciary and media (this is not even something unique to the US, can and does happen in many places).
Solving the disease of course depends on the given local context, but more often than not you will have to prosecute oligarchs in addition to a broader package of anti-corruption and judicial reforms.
You nailed it. The disease is the breakdown of the rules of society that allow the oligarchs to exist and fester.
I see. Agreed, the root cause for the rise of oligarchy is arguably a much bigger issue than any given individual oligarch.
