For example, you put yourself through university by studying hard and working full time. Then someone says, you should thank god for giving you the strength. Like wtf do you mean, I busted my ass day in and day out but I’m supposed to thank god for it?
I grew up culturally Christian and surrounded by soft-references to Christian stuff all the time. I try to see past whatever the literal thing they are saying and see the metaphor they are trying to express. People can have limited vocabulary and grow up in bubbles of their family, church, whatever. I try to give them Grace and just move on. Ultimately, they are trying to communicate a good thing with you. As long as they don’t start evangelizing or guilting, that’s different.
So fucking irritated my dude. I know in their minds they’re doing it out of a sense of trying to help other souls to find the correct path, in theory. But when you look at it from a secular point of view it literally just feels like them asserting their worldview constantly in the most smug possible way, like get fucked fr. Humans just don’t know how to stop themselves from convincing everyone around them of whatever fairytale horse shit they desperately need for themselves to not fear death. I don’t mind them believing whatever the hell they want, I just wish they would shut their ass about it. If it’s the truth thing everyone on Earth has the same access to it and I don’t need somebody constantly reminding me that what’s true is true. Things that are true don’t need to be constantly repeated
I would push back on the idea that humans inherently want to push their religions on people. In actuality that behavior is an effect of the memetic construction of more modern religions. Memetics being the concept “viral ideas” or contagious ideas. Where an idea becomes a thing of its own and spreads without outside interference. (yes like memes). The polytheistic religions were generally not so inclined to spread their religion to others. They’d show up in a forgein land and see other peoples worshipping gods and either think those were the names for their own gods here or think that these are just the gods of this land. The Greeks for example would make offerings to Isis while in Egypt.
The more recent idea of “An imperative to spread” is an invention of christianity that was picked up by Islam as well. Over time much like our societies evolve the ideas we have evolve too. It’s natural selection. Given enough time any idea that has baked into it the imperative to spread will overtake ideas that do not. Hence the death of paganism in Europe and the dominance of Islam, and Christianity in that region by comparison over the last few centuries.
Eventually (As is already happening to some extent with political ideologies imo) a new memetic construct will come along that outcompetes christianity. Just as the christians before it absorbed paganism (Arch Angels and Demons are literally just pagan gods given new names) this new one will absorb christianity and outcompete it and the other religions into near extinction. This may be a new religion of its own, it may be a political movement, it may be something else. Whatever it is it will better fit the material conditions of the current world than the now quite outdated christianity which was more suited to a medeival time period. Giving it an advantage and leading to inevitable spread.
The overall purpose of religion is to propagate itself like a mind virus. Institutional velocity.
I wouldn’t care at all if these people were able to keep their delusions to themselves. As a whole, past and present, these people have proven themselves incapable of doing so.
Paradox of tolerance.
Does anyone else feel irritated when deeply religious people
Yes
I find it extremely offensive and presumptuous when a religious person tries to use God talk with me. When somebody tells me to praise Jesus or thank the Lord I feel the same level of discomfort that I’d imagine they would feel if I said hail Satan or let Satan guide us or whatever. I don’t consent to having any of those intentions towards me and it’s very selfish and narrow minded that they assume everyone would agree to those things they say.
Thank god the tornado destroyed my neighbor’s house and not mine.
Thank god those kids in poor countries are starving and not me.
Thank god for killing kids with cancer.
They never attribute to god the things that a god could prevent, or in fact deliberately willed to happen, but they’re sure happy to strip someone of their accomplishments and effort by attributing them to god’s will.
I’ve been told the same thing, they said god gave me my strength, but realistically if this “god” did give me anything, it would be my weaknesses and hostile social environment, where I was forced to find my own strengths that a god couldn’t give unless they wanted me to face some sort of mythological nepotism.
Omg! God told me I would see this post! Praise him!
Yay well done God. Great job you did there. Keep it up, you’re doing so well.
Which god?
The one true god.
Heretic. There is only one true religion.
I wouldn’t be irritated if they didn’t insist on it incessantly
No more aggravated than when I hear traumatized atheists be hypocrites.
Yeah, all those in-your-face atheists with their ad-covered buildings every few blocks and their national holidays and their billboards telling you how to live and their going door to door to tell you how to live. That definitely happens all the time with…atheists.
How bold of you to claim atheists do not have a national holiday a mere TEN DAYS prior to National Donut Day!
Huh, you sound exactly like who I am talking about.
Reminds me of a couple of joke/stories.
- A flood came and an owner was on top of the house. A boat came by to save him and he said “That’s okay, God will save me”. Then a helicopter came by to save him and he said the same thing. He drowned and went to heaven and asked God why he didn’t come save him and God said “I sent you a boat and a helicopter!”.
- A very famous, powerful rabbi stopped at an inn and the owner was out, but the staff treated him terribly. The rabbi cursed the hotel and stated that it will burn down the following day at noon. The next morning the rabbi got up to leave and the owner, who was now back, begged and pleaded with him to remove the curse. The rabbi eventually agreed. The peasants were watching the inn to see what would happen and when noon came and went, and the inn did not burn down, everyone exclaimed “It’s a miracle!”.
Comedian Daniel Sloss said something about thanking god after surviving cancer: No, it was the doctors, stupid. (We have tickets to see him soon. Check if he’s in your area, he’s awesome.)
“God” is the greatest cause of murder and war. It’s fucking stupid. In the old testament, he’s a fucking dick. Seriously, what an asshole. But “christians” who know nothing about the book they proselytize pretend they have a moral obligation to be assholes to people they don’t like.
I’ve studied and read more historical and educational books on early christianity than any right-wing republican asshole (I live in the USA), I guarantee it. I was on a serious mission for about 18 months after years of casual Wikipedia browsing. But it’s not just christians.
Any person who makes their religion known to strangers is a weak piece of shit. Wear a cross, a burka, a kippah, whatever. You suck. It should be private. Advertising your beliefs shows how insecure you are about them. I don’t need to prove a goddamn thing to anyone because I’m confident that I’m morally correct. You know why you need “god above”? Because you’re not sure what to think without someone telling you what’s right and wrong.
I agree, but to fair, a lot of Muslim women do not have the choice to not wear a burka or other head covering.
they can wishfully think themselves into anything as long as it makes them better than other people and they can play victim
I especially feel irritated when they credit god over actual people that made something happen, like thanking god over a surgeon that just saved your life
Yeah, you’re to blame for everything bad and God gets credit for everything good.
