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    Why is Biden such a warmonger?

    This is clearly the Dems fault.

    What was Obama doing during 9-11?

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    I don’t think there are any voters besides military contractors and politicians who are in favor of these wars. No one wants to spend our hard earned money blowing up a bunch of starving homeless people on the other side of the ocean.

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    A constant state of war is essential to fascism.

    The reality is, there will eventually be a draft. Will Americans stand for it? Probably.

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      Like the committee didn’t see this coming. The guy changed the name from the Dept of DEFENSE, to the Dept of WAR. You don’t think the Nobel Committee doesn’t understand what that signals? They tend to be pretty smart people, but dummies like MAGA don’t recognize intelligence. It’s an entirely foreign concept to them. So he thought he was getting something over on them, getting the Peace Prize, then attacking everybody, so he could hide behind his Peace Prize, saying it’s THEIR fault, I didn’t start it, I have a Peace Prize. And his idiot followers would actually parrot that, just like they are parroting that Iran started this war 47 years ago.

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          Which is a really stupid thing to say. Should e.g. Ukraine not fight for peace? Should Britain not have fought for peace in WW2?

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              Carlin’s quote said nothing about “defense”.

              And in any case, e.g. NATO’s prevention of the genocide was not “defense”. Was that also like "fucking for Virginity”? I have met some people from Kosovo, and they certainly do not think so, naming their children after Bill Clinton and all… No, Carlin is an idiot here.

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        I mean, Rome had peace. War elsewhere isn’t really an issue for the elites that do the writing of history…

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    Americans still go without healthcare, struggle to pay rent, struggle to buy fucking groceries, but we somehow have more than enough to wage unnecessary war.

    We need a revolution.

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      the subsidies from covid ended it allowed the subsidies to go back tot he pre-covid times(the schumer help end), and customers so a massive increase in thier preminums, it was on various insurance sub reddits, strangely its missing from news subs so nobody really was talking about that, reddit was definitely suppressing the news to prevent alarm.

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      go without healthcare, struggle to pay rent, struggle to buy fucking groceries

      Your nearby US Recruiter may have a solution …

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    Africa, Asia, and South America

    So we are not counting North-America, where the ICE raids continue then?

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      “Today there are so many places in the world where the U.S. government is conducting military operations — including the war at home on migrants — that each event eclipses the last in terms of media attention,” said Stephanie Savell, the director of Brown University’s Costs of War Project.

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      America is one continent.

      ITT: Lots of angry Americans on copium. Stay strong.

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          This entirely depends on where in the world you are from.

          The English-speaking world generally refers to America as two continents.
          The Spanish-speaking world generally refers to America as one continent.

          Neither are correct, both are correct.

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        North and South America are considered separate continents. They’re not even connected now that the Panama canal was dug.

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            Continents are a geological construct, with continents tending to be granitic, and oceanic plates typically being basalt. Dividing continents with geopolitical boundaries is a social construct.

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              Still it’s perhaps just a human-imposed classification scheme. What about Europe and Asia? Also, India? The boundaries themselves are quite symbolic of how we choose to see the world, even politically. We conceptually compartmentalize continuous systems using all kinds of sneaky criteria. If you’re strictly referring to geological objects, are you still even referring to continents?

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                At the end of the day everything about how we engage with, understand, and define the universe is based off human systems because that’s just how we do. We’re intelligent enough to recognize beyond ourselves and deduce the nature of why things happen and then use our words to describe it. A granitic continent doesn’t know its granite and a basaltic oceanic plate doesn’t know it’s basalt, it operates as it’s properties demand, like they have for billions of years before humans and will for millions of years after we’re gone.

                The products of these natural cycles do lend to how humanity has organized itself for thousands of years. River valleys helped establish agriculture and the birth of “civilization”, and mountain ranges, deserts, great rivers, and oceans made for natural boundaries once populations grew to the size they started defining “them and us”.

                So I do agree that continents (and natural features in general) shape how we think of the people who live there, and some places have thousands of years of history where those features were the boundaries of their nation. But the physical structure we call a continent exists with or without humans calling it a continent, nations do not. Continents influence human affairs and cultural/national identity at home and abroad, but again, that’s heaping our humanness on what is otherwise a slab of granite that is doing its thing.

                I’d point out too, Earth’s plates are constantly shifting, but for the entire existence of humans they’ve only moved a few to a few dozen kilometers. Their importance to our social organizing is partly due to their seemingly static nature. But in 200-300 million years we’ll possibly be all jammed back together Pangea-style. Though I highly doubt humans will be around to see that.

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            True but in this society we recognize 7. To recognize only one America with consistency you’re probably looking at 4 though maybe a 5th could be argued

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              What do you mean “this society”? Different countries have different standards, and they’re all arbitrary.

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                I was literally taught two different models in school and those are far from the only ones.

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          The Panama Canal doesn’t even go all the way down to sea level; it definitely does not make a difference.

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            They are separate tectonic plates, the two continents only crashed together relatively recently, the “columbian exchange” that saw wildlife mix between the continents. South America was near Africa at one point, North America more with Europe as I understand it.

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              1. Scotia plate (bits of Patagonia),
              2. South American plate,
              3. Altiplano plate,
              4. North Andes plate,
              5. Panama plate,
              6. Caribbean plate,
              7. North America plate,
              8. Pacific plate (Baja California peninsula, southern California).
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                When I was on the Appalachian trail they had a placard that explained it and said it’s also the oldest mountain range in the world, and used to be like 4x the size of the himalayans (which is the youngest.) Others have disputed that, but just internet randos with no sources, I trust the NPS placard.

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                  I trust the NPS placard.

                  If it was placed before 2025, sure.

                  Nowadays, though, they’re being systematically torn out and replaced with MAGA christofascist propaganda. Think “war of northern aggression” and destruction of anything about black history, for example.

                  I wouldn’t put it past them to replace info about plate tectonics with creationist bullshit eventually.

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            We did! The canal is tens of meters deep, while bedrock is typically not more than a few meters below the surface anywhere on earth (except where cover naturally collects in places like valleys).

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          Depends on which third grade. Some countries learn about America as one continent in e.g. a six-continent model. Which I think is silly given the obvious first continental divide to go would be the Eurasian one that only exists for historical reasons.

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            This is the correct model. America developed very similarly, unlike parts of Eurasia which is why Europe and Asia are definitely culturally distinct, but America isn‘t. At least not for a lot of us.

            Sorry „north“ Americans, but you‘re not that different from Argentinians to us.

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              Developed very similarly? On what time scale? Inuit, Salish, Cherokee, Aztec, Inca, and Rapa Nui are all pretty distinct. Post-colonialism there’s lots of differences between French, English, Spanish, and Portugese influence. And topographically the North Andes are a pretty solid border (though in many ways it makes more sense to extend out to the coast).

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            Which I think is silly given the obvious first continental divide to go would be the Eurasian one that only exists for historical reasons.

            America makes sense for historical reasons as well. After all it is a massive settlers colony of different European nations. The Spanish influence very much connects both continents, if you want to do that.

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        People who want a free Palestine don’t and have never supported Trump, I don’t know why liberals keep parroting this.

        Also “where are they” in the anti-ICE actions and similar movements (plenty in No Kings), you can easily see Palestine flags and the like if you actually paid attention to local movements

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          https://lemmy.ml/comment/14779139

          The harris campaign decided to be pro-war and buddy up with incredibly unpopular warmonger dick cheney.

          She put no significant distance between her foreign policy and trump’s. If you really think lemmy lefties are the reason harris lost then you probably haven’t been outside in a long time

          https://lemmy.ca/comment/12663066

          Biden/Harris are extremely pro war. Every candidate including and since Obama (gave top 2 spots to HRC and Biden). The worst thing about Biden, beside demonic warmongering on Russia, is how friendly and respectful he is to Republicans and Netanyahu. They just walk all over him in return.

          https://lemmy.ml/comment/14842143

          Funnily enough the very same argument also can be used for Harris and genocide, immgirant oppression, warmongering and everything else here.

          this one is my favorite

          https://lemmy.ml/post/21494718

          They’re using synpathy towards people suffering genocide to try and coral people to the polls. I’ve seen this before. What happened with Roe V Wade? Why are kids still in cages at the border? Why is minimum wage still so low?

          Madam Vice President, too little has been done on issues that were previously promised. I cannot take these people at their word.

          Want my vote? End support now. It’s been a year of genocide with you at the right hand of Biden. All those lives lost happened on your watch. I will not be duped into voting for someone who has been complicit in commiting genocide, who is now promising to stop that same genocide because it happens to coincide with their political goals.

          I will not support a genocide, on the promise of it being ended, only to wake up on January 21st just to hear 'Well, the situation is more complicated than just simply ending support, but I vow…!"

          You’ve had a year to end it, and too little has been done to stop it. I will not vote for a genocidal candidate. I will not say that I support genocide by voting for these people. I will not be an accomplice.

          It’s sickening to think that they probably allowed the genocide to continue just to use it as a carrot to lead people to the ballot box, all the while lining the pockets of the military industrial complex.

          Fuck off with your promises, you’re in the White House now.

          this particular user, halykthered@lemmy.ml, hasn’t been active since March 2025. 🤔 I wonder if they accomplished their mission.

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    It’s crazy to me that anybody can see this old washed up orange piece of shit and think, yeah, I’d follow that guy’s orders.

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      Ikr. If he was crazy charismatic and attractive I could at least understand it a bit. But that guy?? Seriously??

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      I know someone who has never cared about a non-american before but thinks the Iran war is justified because “those people were killing thousands of protesters”. This person also normally doesn’t speak highly of any protester I’m aware of.

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        Same with Cuba right now. The US claims to be concerned about Cuba’s democratic deficits and human rights violations. All while ignoring their own democratic backsliding and ICE’s gestapo-like racial cleansing of the population.

        I’m convinced that MAGA is attracting many people who live a rough life. Poorly educated, resentful, low income people whose attention is fixed on the next paycheck and the cost of groceries. Again and again, I see that many of them seem to view society as a zero sum game. Meaning “if those foreign looking people get punished now, I will surely be better off next month, right???”

        The problem is systemic. I blame the chronic failure of political education across the country. Because of that, I do not expect meaningful political change unless it is triggered by some kind of major rupture, crash, or shock.

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    At this point I’m convinced Trump raped, tortured, killed and ate the babies in the Trump-Epstein files… distractions are wild… and working

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      But the oil price shock is going to hurt Trump electorally, and normal people’s wallets, way worse than the Epstein files. So in a sense it is silly to say that the distraction is “working”.

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      Yeah, right? It must be things he’s deeply ashamed of. I’ve never seen him work so consistantly hard on a single topic before.

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    Nuke Antarctica already and be the first to declare care on penguins!

    Seriously though this timeline is so disappointing that it may Happen. Bad time to stop sniffing glue i guess.

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        It’s about time those penguins paid their fare share. They’ve been taking advantage of America for far too long, with their liberal Pro-Penguin agenda.

        Do you know how many loser penguins are just getting free room & board and medical care from AMERICAN zoos and aquariums? And who pays for that? Americans who just want to see animals in cages. Penguin care and feeding contributes to the high cost of ticket prices, which hard-working Americans have to pay, and it has to stop. These Liberal Penguins must start paying their own way, and stop relying on the kindness of American generosity. That money needs to pay for several important and necessary Genocides.

        The entire liberal Penguin situation is disgusting.

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    Remember “terrorist” is an ill defined term trump can apply to anyone who thumbs their nose at him and use as justification for sending our sons overseas to kill them.