• DankDingleberry@lemmy.world
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    there is a video of chubbyemu (doctor) where he portays a case of a person getting horribly fucked up by horse electrolytes. be careful

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      Can I get a summary?

      Not for trust reasons but just morbid curiosity. There’s obviously a reason why we don’t eat this stuff. I want to know how bad it gets.

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      Someone already linked it, and amazingly the horse electrolytes weren’t even the worst thing going on with that guy.

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    combine this with the monkey chow diet and you have peak human food consumption right up until you die from all the weird shit in there that is unregulated besausemits not designed for humans.

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    If you wanna save money from buying Gatorade? Sprinkle a tad bit of salt in tap water. That’s the amount of electrolytes the average person uses. If you need a little flavor then squirt a bit of mio.

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      The recipe for oral rehydration solution, the Gatorade base, is 1 liter water, 1/2 tsp salt, and 2T sugar. Shake to mix.

      You can add OJ, lemon and/or lime juice, kool-aid powder, mio, crystal light, etc. for flavor.

      The Italian version is sparkling water, juice of a lemon slice, and big dash of salt.

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      Yeah, just a bit of table salt! Magnesium, potassium, calcium? Never heard of 'em!

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        The potassium in it is an alternate salt, so you get your electrolytes without the sodium induced blood pressure changes many people experience.

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      Someone’s always figured out a “better way” than y’know, actual scientists. Always some bizarre conspiracy over why they’re “hiding” the real better way to do something.

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      Also, this stuff is made for horses. Their entire body and nutricial needs are completely different. I for example often have a calcium and vitamin D shortage so I need to take supplements next to my healthy diet. But the amounts I need are completely different to what a horse needs. Too much vitamin D is toxic, too much calcium brittle your bones. I can take paracetamol, so can donkeys, but cats would die from it. Taking supplements that are made for animals can be toxic and can be way to high dosages. Like with this guy, who has a tingling skin because of it, and probably causes damage to his kidneys and or liver, among other organs.

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    I know rhis is lemmy shitpost, and this post is a joke, but in case it is not please watch this: https://youtu.be/LUGdQnxuixI

    It’s based on actual case of exactly this, explained by actual doctor. I can recommend watching even if this is a joke, chubbyemu makes amazing videos.

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      OK it was what I expected.

      TLDR; the “horse” part of this wasn’t really the problem other than that it’s easier to purchase an unhinged quantity at a veterinary supply store. If he was reconstituting to the proper strength (being sober would have helped with that) the electrolytes themselves wouldn’t have been an issue (and honestly are actually beneficial when imbibing).

      I figured it had to be, iirc from reading veterinary metabolic panel normal ranges most of us placental mammals have roughly the same electrolyte balances. Afaik it goes back to whether you have a common ancestor only before or also after leaving the ocean and that your balance is reflective of the ocean’s balance at that time.

      It sounds like there were a few trace minerals that might have built up if he’d kept drinking it in it’s intended strength chronically but the core issue was him drinking essentially a straight salt slurry.

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    This is how it starts, so innocent & healthy even, then suddenly you are on horse tranquillisers, and then glue.

    Remember kids: say no when when a stranger in a van offers you horse candy.

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    Electrolytes are electrolytes. Your horse gets a fuck ton more salt and no sugar, but it’s basically all the same shit at similar ratios. The electrolyte compounds all need to be bioavailable so there shouldn’t be major differences there. The biggest difference is likely purity and contamination tolerances. (Contamination would be things like insects, small rocks or sand, etc: Things that would still be non-toxic, but generally reduced for human consumption.)

    Edit: Still don’t drink the stuff. The ingredients are scaled for an ~1100lb animal so it should be a no-brainer to get the Gatorade instead.

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        Yikes, that guy had untreated sylphilis then took 1100% of the daily Manganese dose and more than a lethal dose of salt. I’m shocked he survived.

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      artificial apple flavor

      Is this something horses actually like, or was it put there knowing very well humans would be consuming it

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      mixing a bit of table salt and sugar in a glass of water will do pretty much the same thing and cost less than both of those.

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        As a horse electrolyte salesman I strongly condemn the idea that people can be healthy without corporate intervention.

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        i think potassium is what actually makes the difference since it’s so critical for peeing the right amount and you tend to lose a lot of it

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          Wait really? I would like to have an argument with a nurse fifteen years ago about this what do I need to know

          She was mad at me for not peeing. I kept telling her I didn’t need to and I’ll pee when I damn well want to. She thought threatening me with catheters (standard practice) would work, but it didn’t, so they then threatened me with an ultrasound. That was fun but they found out my bladder was empty. Fuckers. I can’t pee nonexistent urine.

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            Have a normal, balanced diet if you aren’t extremely active. So yeah, just eat a banana. :)

            I run a lot and a sweat a lot, so my electrolyte loss is fairly high. (You can see the buildup of salts on my gear after it dries and before I wash it.) Electrolyte supplements are great for athletes that can’t practically make up the losses with regular food intake.

            But… To say that Gatorade and other electrolyte drinks are overused by people who aren’t active is an understatement. Many people simply do not need the extra boost of sugar and salts and it’s just going to get pissed out anyway.

            The reason I am a bit vocal about this is that 1. People should actually eat a decent diet just to get these basic salts and 2. Electrolyte supplements are awesome, extremely basic but extremely overused. They are extremely important, but not in the way marketing departments say they are.

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      My biggest shock here is that it’s an actual product and not slop hallucinogenics.

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        Looks like the bone weakness comes from the calcium being pulled from the bones into the bloodstream. I would suspect that ODing on Ca wouldn’t cause that symptom

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          I’m not an expert on this subject, but from what I heard is that with too much calcium the balance is off between the protein collagen and minerals. Usually with bone brittleness there’s a lack of collagen, causing bones to be prone to shattering which is called osteoporosis.

          I don’t know what happens when you have too much calcium and too much collagen. But I doubt you will get super bones. I am quite sure it will be extra hard for some of your organs.

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            Too much calcium can be a variety of issues. Muscle cramps, confusion, kidney stones etc

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      Would NeverBrokeABone consider using this stuff cheating? 🤔

      As far as I can tell, that community talked a big game about the dietary reasons why their bones might be strong but were generally inactive people who never pushed their bodies (and bones) anywhere close to their limits.