The building appears to be among many devastated in Trump’s ‘major combat operations’ as long expected attacks arrive

Iran’s parents had just dropped their children off for class on Saturday morning when they found themselves racing back to school gates, as bombs began to fall across the country in a joint US-Israel attack.

At one elementary school, according to Iran’s state-controlled media, they arrived to find devastation. At least 80 children had been killed in the strike on Shajareh Tayyebeh girls’ school in Minab, southern Iran, the IRNA news agency reported, with dozens more unaccounted for.

In one video circulating on social media, purportedly showing the immediate aftermath of the strike, smoke rises from the burnt-out walls, and debris lies spread across the road. Hundreds of onlookers gathered at the site, some in obvious distress. Screams can be heard in the background. The report of the bombing, its death toll and the video’s source could not immediately be independently verified by the Guardian. Persian factchecking service Factnameh was able to cross-reference the video with other photographs of the school site, and concluded that the video was authentic. Reuters said it had also verified the footage as being from the school.

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    Remember when we all condemned Russia for hitting those schools in Ukraine? And, of course, they’re still doing it.

    I guess not all of us did.

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      At one elementary school, according to Iran’s state-controlled media, they arrived to find devastation. At least 80 children had been killed in the strike on Shajareh Tayyebeh girls’ school in Minab, southern Iran, the IRNA news agency reported, with dozens more unaccounted for.

      Why are you believing the state media of an authoritarian extremist state?

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        Why are you not quoting the part where they say they cross-checked that the videos were real and the building was correctly identified ?

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        Because there is video evidence of it…? I saw a tiny pink backpack with bloody handprints on it as soon as I saw the video of people screaming outside the school

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            For anyone else reading this, FG_3479 has other posts promoting deportation and suggesting some immigrants are simply “wired for crime”.

            I don’t think there’s any need to engage with someone who has such a clear absence of compassion or humanity.

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              I do not think you should simply pick random people off the street and deport them.

              I think that illegal immigrants should be given a chance to go through the process to become legal, and that process should be cheaper and faster than it is now.

              The people I want deported are those such as drug dealers and terrorists.

              Also, my “wired for crime” comment was not targeted towards immigrants but instead criminals. It was in a thread about police.

              I have said all of this before in a earlier comment:

              The people I’m worried about are criminals who are not caught at the border and that the government doesn’t know about.

              We need to both get rid of them and make the legal routes faster and cheaper to isolate criminals from innocent people.

              Currently illegal immigrants should be given a path to legallity if they are willing to provide the documents and have done nothing wrong in both the UK and their home countries.

              I hope you understand my views now.

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                No one is illegal on stolen land. The United States has no actual right to exist, and therefore has no actual right to deport people.

                Drug dealers are supplying a demand created by citizens and governments have no right to tell people what substances they may or may not put in their own bodies. You address harmful drug use by providing people with a life they don’t feel a desperate need to escape from, not by taking anyone’s freedom.

                I understand your views just as I understood them before. I understand that you’re attempting to downplay the murder of children by imperialists and probably have a biased or vested interest in doing so.

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    Well it wouldn’t be an Israeli strike without at least one school being blown to bits.

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    God fucking damnit, so fucking frustrating. Another 30+ years of “terrorists” because people will avenge war crimes committed by the US. This is maddening.

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      And terrorist attacks on Americans ensures more supposed “strong man” presidents. It’s all part of the plan.

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      Yes, this is exactly what I was thinking. All suicide bombers need to do is say “this was for those schoolgirls” and it’s kind of hard to disagree with them.

      The problem is that the people committing these atrocities face no legal justice, so it’s up to vigilantes to do it instead.

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      Another 30+ years of “terrorists”

      We were never going to hear the end of “Muslim Terrorist” rhetoric, because it was instrumental in justifying our dominion over the region.

      There isn’t going to be another 9/11. We’re well past the point of needing a causa belli for this kind of war. It’ll just be ICE goons murdering parents in front of crying children and CNN talking heads explaining how we’re safer because of it.

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        Another 30+ years of “terrorists”

        America claims its attacks are to stop ‘terrorists’, but it’s exactly those actions that are creating ‘terrorists’. And they’re fully justified in becoming ‘terrorists’ imo.

        If I lived in Iran, I’d certainly want revenge for this.

        (here I’m using the word terrorist to mean ‘enemy of America~s administration~’, as that’s what America has turned that word into)


        Prior to this attack, as well as the bunker busters dropped last year: I do not believe Iran is/was creating nuclear weapons.

        Since these two attacks however, I believe they’d be justified in seeking such weapons simply because America has proven over and over that no nation is safe without them.

        In short; I don’t think they are/were, but I do think they should be in response. As much as I don’t like nuclear proliferation, I’m much much more against deliberately killing innocents, particularly children.


        Perhaps I’d have a different opinion if America/Israel struck military targets; but they didn’t. They struck homes, schools, and other civilians.

        America is truly a Terrorist State, if not just a lap dog of Israel’s genocidal regime.

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          it’s exactly those actions that are creating ‘terrorists’

          Even this hasn’t born out. We’re not seeing waves of terrorism on US soil by foreigners or radicalized domestics.

          We’re seeing police brutality by state officials aimed anyone who “looks like a terrorist”, with some spycops bullshit to entrap a few useful idiots along the way.

          Perhaps I’d have a different opinion if America/Israel struck military targets;

          They’re dismantling the ability of the Iranian state to defend it’s sovereignty so they can bomb and assassinate locals with impunity.

          They’re also randomly killing civilians, because these military strikes aren’t as precise or informed as the leadership wants you to believe

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      Another 30+ years of “terrorists”

      I don’t think that the US imperial regime is going to last that long

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          I can see it, not through being overthrown but by immense incompitence as its run by people who are so detatched that they don’t even really understand where food comes from and so up their own asses that they genuinely believe chat GPT can perform complex real world tasks.

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    Israelis and americans expanding and practicing their genocide tactics to see what they can get away with. I dont understand how murdering junior school girls is a legitimate target. Unfortunately western governments are all supporting this despite is blatant illegality. I am ashamed of my government for coming out in support of this. Anthony Albanese is Prime Minister of Australia. Shame on you.

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      because the military convinced everyone their bombs are super precise, but in reality they have a 20% hit rate on average where a “hit” is within the radius of 250 yards (~230 meters)

      So this could’ve been a “direct accurate hit”, statistically speaking, on the actual target which was as far away as being on the other side of the Golden Gate Bridge or a “very near miss” at a distance of laying the empire state building on its side

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      Americans are so used to school killings that they don’t blink an eye at this.

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        How can you live with such a callous disregard for childs lives? What has become of your country?

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          I wonder how you will feel after you realize you and your allies have been a big part of the American empire, too?

          See history of the US dollar and international trade.

          Your country likely contributes a significant amount to the US economy, and we go to war together, too.

          how do you live with that?

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            Ok, so in essence you are saying the person who sold shoes to a murderer is equally guilty of the crime committed?

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              No, I’m in essence saying that the person who murders with the murderer is equally guilty of murder.

              You should look up who arms Australia, by the way. Can you guess who?

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            We live with it by having gun laws which have prevented the rash of mass shootings you’ve had, and maintaining foreign aid programs to the countries around us, and many further away.

            Yes, we trade with you, and China, and Israel, and everyone we can, because trade historically opens up opportunities for diplomacy and allows leverage for achieving human rights goals. We are part of the greater US empire, yes indeed, we’ve been too close to the US in the past. But when we found that our special forces had killed civilians in Afghanistan, for example, it resulted in national scandal and ongoing reform, inquiry, etc. In the US that’s just the norm.

            We do not participate in US military actions that may result in civilian deaths. We do not refuel your planes when they do that, for example.

            We are sitting over here, trying to be friends, while being ever more horrified with your country and trying to remember the good times.

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                Well, one aspect of the recent mass shooting in Sydney that was remarkable compared to ones in the US or Europe was that the shooters used long guns that could not fire very fast. Australian laws introduced after the Port Arthur massacre focused on preventing rate of fire and ammo capacity, because it literally slows down the rate at which a shooter can kill people, especially in a crowd. We also do not allow handguns, even though we allow quite powerful long arms.

                If the Bondi shooters had simple trigger-pull semi-automatic ARs, they would likely have killed a lot more people.

                We also have much stricter registration laws, without the loopholes you get in the States, so police generally know who has guns, where they are stored, etc, to a much greater extent, and can check up on gun owners if they want, any time. There are far fewer crazy people with guns, because you can get your license and guns taken away for being crazy, or committing violent crimes, etc.

                Now, the advantage we have over the EU and the USA is a harder border to cross, fewer people crossing it, only eight state/territories to worry about, and uniform federal legislation about what guns are allowed. It makes it easier to restrict the supply of easily obtainable illegal weapons.

                Sure, criminal gangs can get them, but mass shootings are bad for business, so the loners and freaks who typically do mass shootings can’t easily get them.

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            The pronoun ‘you’ doesn’t mean you specifically; how can you tell it wasn’t about ‘you’ specifically?

            Because they didn’t change the subject to you specifically, of course. The ‘you’ is a pronoun replacing “The United States Military”, “USAF” “US and Israeli combined forces”, etc.; the subject is who the ‘you’ is referring to, not actually you the person.

            The pronoun is used in English to avoid having to specifically refer to the subject by name over and over.

            Now, go forth, and SIN NO MORE

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              I may not be American, but I am a native speaker of English, and what you said there is a terrible, or at least tenuous, interpretation. If what you said was the intended meaning, the comment would have begun with ‘Americans, how can you live with …’

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      While it was immensely piss weak, Albo walked the usual line of not pissing off MAGA while not actually whole-heartedly agreeing with them. He stated that Australia supports US efforts to stop Iran’s nuclear program, but did not actually support the strikes. It’s the Penny Wong approach, “don’t get Trump’s attention, he might forget we exist” that they’ve been following the whole time.

      Didn’t oppose them either. See? Pissweak. But so far we’ve avoided the pedo’s wrath while not being forced to actually materially support US brutality or being slapped by China. So it’s working.

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      Someone on Reddit wrote they are hoping for a stroke, 223 upvotes.

      I added “I am team blood clot.” and got a 3 day ban, lol.

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          I tried fully switching to Lemmy, but the content was lacking. Sure, you got communities for everything, but they are pretty much dead.

          For example on r/Nvidia I immediately see news about new driver updates and the changelogs. On Lemmy it’s dead.

          Similar to other subreddits, be it for certain games or other topics :-/

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              i mean i am the change i want to see, make hundreds of posts, lemmy is still dead and i need reddit for content?

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                  nah right now the quality of content here id put on par with youtube comment section

                  the people here also appear to mostly be american leftwing progressives who feel the need to inject complaints about “the west” and “capitalism” as a by word for America all day every day

                  so it’s a left wing shithole with minimal quality content beyond shitty left wing memes and shitty 1 line snarky comments

                  sorry the fascist place is better? make better content? comment on things that aren’t yet more left wing politics?

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        Ha! Solidarity, mate. Although I should warn you, too many of those temp bans and they kick you out for good. As happened to me, which is why I’m here. 😄

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      you know like a few weeks ago the iranian regime killed upwards of 30,000 people? thousands who were students?

      did this even register on your radar?

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    Pretty sure targeting children’s schools breaches the Geneva Convention rules of war. Although Israel will say they’re a cover for a military base

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      Those rules have not mattered in my lifetime. They are guidelines at best.

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      The school wasn’t targeted, dum dum. There was a military building very close to the school and despite what you see in the movies, most missiles launched in wars aren’t all that perfect at hitting their intended target.

      I’m not defending Trump or Israel or the strikes. I’m just defending against the ignorance if you spreading misinformation that wouldn’t even make sense to do intentionally to begin with. Trump regime wanted to make sure Israel struck first because they thought it would look better that way to US voters. You think he intentionally wanted the flak from bombing a grade school?

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        That was my first thought but the BBC are reporting the school was ~600m from the IRGC base which is well beyond the CEP of modern guided munitions (even if they lose GPS signal, JDAMs should have a CEP of <= 30m on inertial guidance alone). So I dunno, catastrophic intelligence failure or a result of an attempted interception seem to be the leading theories that I can see now.

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          I can see incompetence, some sort of missile failure, or Iranian defense having something to do with it. There’s no purposeful reason to intentionally hit a single grade school. At least not from the US. It would be counter to anything Trumpet would want. I could only see it as an open possibility from Israel if they wanted to intentionally prolong the war in order to slaughter Iranians by enraging them to make them not want to turn against their current government as much.

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      it was targeting a nearby military base

      same way iran right now is hitting hotels and apartment buildings all over the middle east

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    Americans and Israelis when these particular roosters will inevitably come home to roost: “why do they hate us?”.

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      A super majority of Americans are anti-Israel. This is a strawman that isn’t applicable anymore. Democrats are about to sweep in mid-terms as a consequence of this action + Gaza + ICE.

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        That’s entirely irrelevant to any radicalized Iranian who saw American bombs killing innocent school children.

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          I think you misunderstand. The point is that everyone in the US knows exactly why “they hate us” — it is not a mystery to anyone. This is a straw man in the truest sense; you’d be hard pressed to find a US citizen who authentically poses this question.

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          But does, ironically demonstrate the exact “but why do they hate us, it was Israel!” reaction to be expected.

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    This will definitely keep America safe and absolutely not produce any radicalized terrorists.

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    Gotta wonder how many Chuds will post “Iranians can wear bikinis again” before the bodies are even cold

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    How about we all simultaneously lobby our representatives to impeach this entire evil administration?