anyone who still distributes anything compressed with winrar, please just fucking stop
use it for your personal archival purposes if you must, but please just fucking stop using it to share or distribute anything publicly. there’s zero reason to use .rar over 7z or zip or tgz or any other open standard
isn’t unrar open source?
I actually paid for it back in 2017. I had been using it for free a looong time by then.
I’ve never used WinRAR. I’m a 7-zip
fanaticuser.Was expecting this to be an Onion article
Pay for independently-developed software if you care about it continuing to exist. Steal from corporations all you want. But support independent devs (and small teams) to make sure they can keep maintaining the tools you love and rely on. It’s the only way to not get swallowed by the big dogs.
LinRAR when?
What’s wrong with the alternatives
they got the wrong name
Lol, windows users.
Is it possible they are getting MORE paying people because lets face it, nobody RAR’s the day to day stuff.
This seems like an increase in files on peoples computers like: ididntwantopayforthisgame_cracked.rar
I own a valid WinRAR license!
Same. I’ve happily used it for over 2 decades and decided that they actually deserve some money for that. I’ve since switched to Linux, but don’t regret paying for WinRAR at all.
You can still use it. WinRAR works on Linux with WINE
Oh God why though
They also have a Linux version. But it might be cli only haven’t checked.
Yes I think rar and unrar on Linux are their CLI tools - there is no official GUI Version for Linux
I never knew unrar is also by the same developer. Pretty cool.
Mhm, it also has less features kinda.
someone considered this? lol we should show our supports to foss ones, not this one. what’s gotten into yall
I bought a license when I got my first adult paycheck. And a PS2. Good times
I knew someone must exist!
nonsense no one exists
Ever since i found out that there is a yearly subscription for winrar on android, ive been paying for it.
I dont even use winrar anymore but it gives the same satisfaction as donating to wikipedia, and its just a few bucks so why not
Me too! Must be 20+ years since I bought it.
I bought my license a few years ago - I prefer to support open source projects tho
I use 7zip.
7zip is better anyway I don’t understand why people still use WinRar. Then again I don’t understand why people still use Windows either.
Nostalgia probably
Name recognition counts for something in the choice about helper apps.
Sometimes venerable old utilities you know from back in the day are bought out and turned into malicious shit. I don’t discount that.
However when you go looking for a little helper app for something simple, there’s an ocean of weird little offerings out there and many of them are malware.
I’d rather roll the dice that a venerable old classic hasn’t been bought out. This fact is probably quite Google-able. As for the long list of other unzip utilities… how am I supposed to know? Reviews and ratings are all fake. Many Reddit recommendations are fake.
Just saying this is one angle on why people might continue using really old tried and true programs.
I’m glad you can have a Windows-free existence.
Some things just don’t function well on Linux, but there are lots of us who are 99% Linux and don’t use Windows unless we have to.
I have to use a windows box when I initiate my Reolink security cameras as an example. Haven’t been about to figure out a way to do the initial setup on them without and I couldn’t get it to run on Linux. Honestly been less of a time consuming pain to just have a windows box with the software. It’s only plugged into the isolated LAN anyway so whatever.
Like what exactly ?
I used to work in tax and there isn’t a functional professional tax prep software that i could find that works on linux.
CAD softwares, Tally, any Autodesk tools, Adobe software not counting specifically made business softwares years ago. I couldn’t get Office running with wine ever.
Adobe is not worth using no matter what the platform.
It’s the industry standard in many areas for a reason. Photoshop has no equal, though strides are being made to change that.
Don’t care. Adobe is not worth using.
You don’t care because it’s not your job to use it professionally. You are not most people.
My 3080ti graphics card. To my knowledge, NVIDIA drivers are still a mess on Linux, and any suggestion to “just switch to AMD” is neither helpful nor appreciated; as if dropping $500+ for a new graphics card when my current one works perfectly fine is in ANY way a valid solution.
Nvidia drivers and gaming compatibility have grown leaps in the last year. I’m using dual monitors on a 2070m in a laptop, one of the historically most incompatible setups. I am running cachyos. I was able to simply install the OS and start playing my entire steam library, all without any modification. I play plenty of modern games. I don’t have any AAA FPS with anticheat though, which I hear don’t work at all.
I had issues with the live boot having 3 monitors. I just unplugged 2 and installed, grabbed the suggested driver, no issues since.
Nvidia works fine on Linux. I have an nvidia card at home, and I support a bunch of them at work. It’s easy. https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/driver-installation-guide/latest/index.html
Use the network installation to add the deb or rpm repo, then choose whether you want the open or proprietary drivers. Install the package and that’s it, your package manager will handle the dependencies.
You may need to create and enroll a dkms key if you have secureboot enabled and you haven’t done that already, but that’s the only wrinkle.
i know what some of these words mean but i think i’m going to need your advice in the near future. Thanks!
I got a 3060 which works fine i guess the 3080 should too
Been playing everyday for about two years with my 3060ti without much issue. There’s still the odd hiccup on occasion, but it’s usually solved by picking a different Proton version. Most games “just work,” generally without any changes.
The nVidia drivers haven’t been “a mess” for quite a long time, so if that’s what is holding you back, I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. ProtonDB has a massive and growing list of games that run on Linux, and you can see what people did (if anything) to get those games working.
I will caution you, however, that if any amount of tinkering makes you inwardly cringe, you might want to think twice. Linux is generally easy to use, and it’s only getting easier, but there will be times you’ll have to add Launch Options to a Steam game, install a mod differently, or use the command line to do something.
Autocad
For me personally about 30% of my video game library, which don’t function even with the various compatibility tools.
But when I started my YouTube channel I was using Openshot, which does not work on Linux, or at least it didn’t for me. My old Lenovo Legion was largely incompatible with Linux too, as I tried a dual-boot with two different distros and still had to debug it all the time. (Thankfully not a problem on the Acer that replaced it.)
Linux is great, but it’s not yet compatible with everything.
- Adobe and other professional programs
- online games that use anti-cheat
- some old games
- some game mods
Do you have to remove your bottom two ribs to shill for adobe or do they send you to special stretching classes?
Adobe is a shit company, and I’m not giving them any money, but the fact is their programs have features that the alternatives don’t. I’m looking forward to the day when they start supporting Linux or an alternate program family steps up with all the features I need.
Not everything is a competition. If people want to support WinRAR after the developer maintained it for more than 30 years and helped out millions of people, that’s just fine.
If i fill bottles with tap water and try to sell it to my neighbours then anyone still “supporting” me after 30 years is an idiot.
This is not only a stupid comparison but you’ve missed the point entirely.
Bottles, time to bottle, and distribution are worth compensation
You’re right and if people are demanding your bottles then that means it is valuable at least to those people.
Also this is how water bottle companies actually do stuff the store brands in USA of Purified water almost always say they’re from a public water supply.
Deleted Windows from every computer I ever owned.
Then because of a certain chain of events came the time to look into working from home. Boy oh boy, I guess it depends on the type of work you do but for what I’m qualified for they absolutely do not vibe with anything except Windows. I couldn’t even find many that would at least let you use Mac.
I begrudgingly installed Windows 11 on my machine again the other day for this very reason. I’ll still dual boot of course but man, I’m really not happy about it.
Also, Windows are complete dicks about letting you make a bootable windows USB gotta either use apps not in your distro directory or use another Windows computer to make one. Wtf is that shit about? And I had to spend like 2 hours making windows suck less.
It reminds me of how apps are starting to treat me for using Graphene OS
Are you working for yourself? Its hard to tell with how you put this.
I only work remotely, and I will never use windows to do it. The places I work for must provide the windows, and I remote into them from Linux. I vastly prefer this model. I do not want their software on my computer as I never want to be liable. The business likes it because it is far more secure to not give me a laptop and have to fuck around with a VPN.
As for the other issue: There are projects that will build the USB for you, where you provide the windows ISO you want, and then it removes all the crap and telemetry before install. There are ways to make the USB without windows, although I am not sure what you mean by “outside distro directory”.
I just found woeusb the other day, if you need to make a windows USB from Linux in the future.
I use it on occasion, since it will deflate 100+GB zip files much faster than 7zip will. (7z is single threaded for pkzips)
It’s been more than a decade since I used it to compress anything though. LZMA2 rocks.
How does multithreading improve the performance of an unzip operation? I would think the opposite, given the context switching and (abstracted) low level drive writes.
It’s heavily CPU bound in a normal system today. Extracting (let alone compressing) a 2 GB file will take a noticeable amount of time. Reading the whole thing from an nvme will take roughly 1 second. Random access is no longer a relevant performance impact either.
It is my understanding that multithreaded extraction is hard(er) cause the used dictionary is built up incrementally. So to extract later parts you need to have extracted earlier parts.
Or WinZip. I work for a company that literally has the licenses for every computer they own. Why? 7-zip is free.
Winzip, i think, is owned by Corel I think. Almost as evil as Adobe. In India over here a lot of small businesses use it and it is unaffordable for them to get such creative suites. Corel constantly sends notices to the ones using cracked copies and force them to buy it for 3 years to avoid legal damages.
I could think of stronger password protection options. Maybe some kind of UI. Maybe a way to certify creators of the zip so they can filter out malicious zips in emails. I dont know what WinZip offers but company compliance is a goldmine.
Yup. The ability or willingness of a software maker to remove or agree to an indemnification clause is sometimes of paramount importance for some organizations.
It’s sank more than a few promising projects at my org.
Nanazip is the preferred Windows tool.
Preferred by who?
Personally I’m not a fan of the ‘modern’ windows UI, lack of a menu bar, added sponsor button, lack of 32-bit support, lack of windows <10 support, or the fact that it’s an msix-installed ‘app’ rather than a normal program.Windows users.
ITT: The most politically charged discussion of compression software I’ve ever read…
It’s always been a sore subject for unknown reasons
FOSS users when there’s a software that’s free but not open source
I make software that’s almost “open source” with the only limitation being that you can’t resell it. I’ve had FOSS users tell me they’d prefer it being proprietary.
Surely thats just a couple of weirdos on the extreme side. Did that happen on multiple occasions?
That’s how I know I’m home
What else did you expect from lemmy?
Israel uses 7zip to genocide LGBTQ children in Palestine running Arch btw
Makes sense. People finally have tons of disposable income to spread around. /S
Or maybe is just that everything else is so ridiculously expensive that WinRAR seems like a good deal now.
It actually kinda is, the price has been $29 since 1995, adjusted for inflation they should be asking for $64 today.
Shhh you’re a free software
Unlike 7-Zip, which is actually free and also open-source as well
7-Zip is by far the best archiving software on Windows
Didn’t Microsoft get in trouble for trying to steal 7zip code without credit or something?
Well, but I’m used to WinRAR and never had any issues. Only need it once every few months. And it’s pretty fun when the software tries to tell me that it isn’t a free software. What a silly thing to say!
Snot. You run windows 🤪
I didn’t say I use Windows. I only said that 7-Zip is the best archiving software available for it.
Also, 7-zip is available for Linux too
You can use Wine on Linux to install it…
No, it’s proprietary
Free as in free beer, not as in freedom.
When refering to software free usually means free as in freedom
Not in this case
RAR files just make me “Huh?” as they are nowhere near as good as 7zip, as universal as zip, or as nice as tarballs.
The memory of multi-part rar files being a good way to get big things voer dial-up is kinda long past, they’re a relic, in my book.
I think theyre still popular on Usenet.
IDK all the history but rar has built in ability to create recovery data / parity volumes.
Parity data is like additional data that can help reconstruct any degradation.
That said, usually a standalone parity generator is used which can work with other types of archives, but rar is what everyone uses so why change.
Compression algos are ineffective on encoded / compressed media anyway.
It used to be important on Usenet, and maybe still is, because if a drive starts to fail somewhere and contains errors those errors can be reproduced across the network. Not sure if thats still a thing or why but certainly 10 years ago it was.
The summary to this rambling comment is: some communities still like rar because its what they’ve always used and there’s no benefit to adopting 7z.
multi-part rar
Why not just use Tar with
splitandcat?Instructions unclear.
My cat is now blacka and cut in half
Its big companies that screw them the most. I have worked for multiple multi billion dollar corporations that will screw Team Viewer over even though its how we get customers into their down servers. And it wasn’t one data center, its every data center I have ever worked in (30 years in)
If the license is free, they will screw them.
*I know TV hasn’t been around that long, but WinRAR has been and it was another company I saw screwed.
Thats kinda of how the free license works though. Yes loads of people use it without paying but theyre free advertising.
Ah, yes, the bigger the company, the more willing to save something negligible on tools its business depends upon.
Honestly that’s why I wish more of FOSS were hobbyist like AROS, Haiku and such. FOSS projects shouldn’t be too readily usable by businesses, that allows bullshit shops with arrogant pigeon management to keep existing without building proper processes.
I mean, there’s some equilibrium here probably, but with what projects get from businesses bigger than nation-states using their work, - we’re far from it.
At the same time there are things like Java, PostgreSQL, Redis, Nginx and so on. I don’t know.
It just seems sometimes that FOSS breaks market mechanisms in favor of big businesses not giving back to the rest of economy, which seems the opposite of its intuitively and emotionally perceived goal.
But maybe archivers are not it. Not a fan of the idea of having a set of 10 different archivers all often needed, like people did in the 90s. OK, I was a baby in the 90s. Many people didn’t have PCs in the 90s.
But can we just go back to weak connectivity (say, asynchronous message exchange of everyone to everyone via BT ; global cryptographic identities and message ids, sort of a global p2p cryptographically contracted Usenet), a zoo of common operating systems and hardware platforms, evolution, competition, geekiness, interesting things.
I think WinRAR forgot /s
